Trying to build viable third parties by voting for them in presidential elections is like trying to build a third door in your house by repeatedly walking into the wall where you want the door to be.
Trying to build viable third parties by voting for them in presidential elections is like trying to build a third door in your house by repeatedly walking into the wall where you want the door to be.
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You know Democrats are cooked when they start attacking third party voters instead of Trump voters.
Especially now people really start paying attention to the third parties.
If it's easier to reason with third party voters than trump voters, it seems like the logical thing to do.
EDIT: also worth pointing out the difference between "attacking" trump voters as individuals, because they have proven themselves to truly be deplorable, and "attacking" third party voting as a decision.
Democrats have done far more to reason with Republicans this election cycle than they have with third party voters on the left who at least don't want genocide but know that the duopoly is never going to budge on their undying support of Israel. Let alone other actually progressive policies.
On top of that, I'd say there's some nuance - nationally, you'll see Democrats reasoning with Republicans, targeting the non-maga conservatives.
However here on Lemmy, there are very few conservatives as well as a disproportionate number of third party folks, so you'll see a lot more discussion centered around third parties.
There's not much reasoning going on. Only dishonest claims about how Democrats actually stand for things they don't stand for such as "Biden is actually the biggest ally of Palestinians", and screaming insults.
For what its worth I agree. The Democrats are killing themselves from within. Say what you want about Trump but they are smart enough to target the moderate crowd. Meanwhile Harris is busy dodging hard questions about her political stance. The liberal media likes to brag about how good the Democrats are doing but the reality is they have lost a lot of ground and Harris is too far left for most of the swing voters. People have not been happy with the way Biden is running things and it shows.
I also find it funny that Harris is adapting the Trump strategy. She is increasingly responding with insults and slander instead of being a cool collected alternative to Trump. Her association with Biden is also not doing her favors and many people just don't know her well enough to support her.
I suppose Lemmy isn't the place for political discussion. Lemmy as a whole is far left and it shows. This might be a shock but social media isn't a good representation of the bigger political views. If you go on a platform dominated by the right you will end up with people calling you far left because you don't believe in racism.
Democrats would rather get really mad at people who don't want to support Genocide than just stop supporting Genocide.
If Democrats truly believe Trump is the next Hitler you'd think they would try to appeal to voters a little harder. Maybe the Democratic party is not as scared of Trump as their fearmongering suggests.
Note: Linkerbean is a republican pretending to be left leaning, here just to dissuade left-leaning folk from voting dem.
I said so to them a while back and their reply, since deleted, was "Cope." https://lemmy.world/comment/12097015
Downvote and move on, but you'll get only nonsense if you engage.
You got some links to support this?
Dude shills anti genocide position based on my experience
Only in order to pursuade folks not to vote democratic (which is bizarre because Trump and his party are pretty rabidly on favour of "finish them" outcomes in Gaza).
Link: https://lemmy.world/comment/12097015 I can only see the reply "cope" in my inbox. On the website the 1 more reply never expands for me.
This comment got reported. And while trolling is not allowed. Attacking an individual is also not allowed. So I'm not sure if attacking them for being a troll is allowed.
If you think a post is trolling (ie: just trying to stir up anger rather than trying to make an argument for something), please report it. If you think a poster is serial trolling please point it out in the report.
I'm open to feedback.
I've edited it to make it more factual and perhaps less emotive by replacing the phrase "republican troll" with "republican pretending to be left leaning" and provided a link to where they replied "cope" when I pointed this out to them previously. I don't know if you can see the reply, it won't expand for me, but I promise you that's what it said. I don't know whether you count arguing in bad faith just to persuade your political opponents not to vote as trolling, but I certainly feel it's not good behaviour and worth pointing out to folks who are taken in.
Thank you, I really appreciate the effort to tone things down.
I want people to have the freedom be passionate in their comments and posts, and I think the community rules do a good job of allow the freedom to argue passionately. The rules do aim to avoid attacks against people themselves and groups of people.
So, while toning things down is not the primary goal, when things get aggressive it's harder for everyone to avoid ad hominem attacks.