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NATO Proposes $100 Billion, Five-Year Fund to Aid Ukraine

www.bloomberg.com NATO Proposes $100 Billion, Five-Year Fund to Support Ukraine

NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg is proposing to establish a fund of allied contributions worth $100 billion over five years for Ukraine as part of a package for alliance leaders to sign off when they gather in Washington in July.

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Because they would have had a peace deal back in 2022, and that peace deal was with more territory than Ukraine currently has, and Ukraine was also in a better negotiating position.
- That isn't true. The peace deal left eastern Ukraine undecided.
  
  https://www.wsj.com/world/russia-ukraine-peace-deal-2022-document-6e12e093
  
  I looked at the exact peace lines it was going to be at, and the lines were better back then than they are right now.
  
  Any maps did not include Russian claims to eastern Ukraine because that wasn't part of the peace plan. Ukraine was to disarm and then Russia would decide how much of Eastern Ukraine was taken.
  
  I already linked the article.
  
  Furthermore, Russia had already violated the 1994 non aggression agreement
  
  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukraine_and_weapons_of_mass_destruction#:~:text=The Declaration of State Sovereignty,non-nuclear-weapon state.
  
  So Russia could not be trusted to not invade again.
  
  US aid to Ukraine is required by the 1994 Budapest Memorandum.
  
  The peace deal was borders to a paticular day of the war. I already looked at is and saw the result, I am not going to re-research it.
  
  And I linked proof that what you remember is wrong.
  
  "The future of Ukraine’s east, part of which was occupied by Russia in 2014, was not included in the draft, leaving the issue for a personal discussion between Vladimir Putin and Volodymyr Zelenskyy, who never held a meeting."
  
  https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2024/03/1/7444515/
  
  "recognition of the Donetsk People's Republic and Luhansk People's Republic as independent states,"
  
  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peace_negotiations_in_the_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine#:~:text=In negotiations during March and,guarantees from its European allies.
  
  Any maps showed only the Ukrainian territory that Putin said was non negotiable but left eastern Ukraine undecided.
  
  So Ukraine was to disarm, then Putin would decide how much of Eastern Ukraine Russia would take.
  
  And again, Russia already violated the Budapest Memorandum.
  
  You can repeat what you keep saying, but the eastern providences were always going to be gone.
  
  Then your claim that Ukraine would have had more territory if they took Russia's 2022 peace plan is false.
  
  Nope
  
  You can't say "nope" when I have proven that you are wrong with sources.
  
  I just did...

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