Does programming.dev have a dilution problem due to too many communities?
Does programming.dev have a dilution problem due to too many communities?
So, I love this site. I've been here more-or-less since the beginning, across various accounts. I also have accounts on other Lemmy instances.
One common pattern I see is that instances branch out their communities too soon, and overly dilute the conversation. It makes an instance that is ultimately not that active (compared to any of the big sites that don't need naming, really) appear to be even less lively, due to so many instances with either nothing at all, a few month old posts, or a generic post linking to a projects blog.
Note that I am not criticizing the instance by pointing out the low activity levels - I really do love this place. It's just a fact at the moment. You can switch viewing posts by new and scroll down a little to see we get around 5 - 6 posts per hour, occasionally a bit more and occasionally a bit less.
I think that having lots of inactive, dead looking communities is off-putting. I know that I certainly don't feel encouraged to post in them. I worry this might have a similar effect on other users too.
I do understand that c/programming is deemed as something of a catch-all community, and so anyone could post there rather than the niche communities, but I'm not sure that this is totally obvious to everyone.
Personally, I feel we should purge all the tiny communities that have no posts (or just a single blog post, for example) and encourage people to post in c/programming. Then, new communities can be made when a particular topic becomes large enough to warrant divergence, either because it's clearly a subject of interest to many users or because it ends up dominating c/programming. c/rust is an example of such a community, as is c/programmerhumor.
I am nobody here, and I was not asked for my opinion, but I just wonder if this topic has been thought about much? I really want this place to thrive. Do any other users here have an opinion? What do the instance admins think?
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I mod the MAUI Community, which was created shortly before Xmas, and I made some announcements then (like on Mastodon, Daily Dew Drop, etc.) and some people joined then.
I'm late to the game but I should point out that the MAUI community is a textbook example of how communities should definitely not be created, and it was clear from the start that it was already born a dead community.
The C# barely gets a single post per week. The .NET community is even more of a niche community, and in spite of all the non-organic posts it's already dead.
Even though you were fully aware of this and you were repeatedly pointed out the obvious fact that a niche of a niche won't take off, you ignored te feedback and still went ahead with the creation of the community. Which is of course dead.
Lemmy in general and programming.dev in particular already have groups with traction. I hope that moving forward the group creation process is based on peeling specialized topics from existing communities. Otherwise the MAUI fiasco will repeat itself and we'll end up with an even longer tail of dead communities vulnerable to spam and takeovers by bad actors.
dead communities
None of the communities you have mentioned are dead. In fact according to the January stats, all the communities you mentioned have above average usage.
Noted that you ignored this comment of mine...
it’s been worthwhile
Take your gaslighting somewhere else...
None of the communities you have mentioned are dead. In fact according to the January stats, all the communities you mentioned have above average usage.
I'm sorry, you're trying to blatantly lie with statistics.
"Above average" means nothing if the majority of communities is already dead. You're just arguing that some communities are more dead, which is pointless.
You're also lying regarding what traffic is being posted to [email protected]. All posts ranging back to the last two weeks come from a single user account: https://programming.dev/u/SmartmanApps .
To make this even more pathetic, the bulk of the posts going into [email protected] were posted by your account after I pointed out the community was dead and already dead on arrival.
You're not refuting the point: you're proving the point that the community is dead.
I’m sorry, you’re trying to blatantly lie with statistics.
No, you're lying by using a different definition of "dead". See screenshot I already posted. It comes from this very Community. It's based on how many monthly users there are, not how many posts there are. BTW the number of users has gone up since you made your previous comment - the MAUI community now on 35 users a month (only 1 of them is me), which is well on the way to being classified as "moderate" rather than just "quiet". Sorry to break it to you, but you're still wrong. As I said, take your gaslighting elsewhere.
No, you’re lying by using a different definition of “dead”.
Now you're being silly and acting defensively. I don't need to do anything for the [email protected] group to be dead or remain dead, as it was expected to be. Anyone can take a look at it and see that if they filter out your personal inorganic traffic, which is already of dubious relevance, nothing remains.
You can stay up all night arguing otherwise, but it is what it is.
It's ok if you feel that it's your personal mission to generate traffic for a particular channel on a lemmy instance. Just don't try to pretend it's something that's relevant for anyone beyond yourself.
dead, as it was expected to be
Ah! Now I see why you're attacking - trying to prove you were "right". You weren't, you were wrong.
if they filter out your personal
...it'll still be 35 users/month, which is still not dead.
it’s your personal mission to generate traffic
I'm not generating the other 34 people who used it this month, which includes, as I mentioned before, someone who actually provided me with a solution to a problem I had. Welcome to why Communities are useful. Not sure what purpose you think they're for?
It’s ok if you feel that it’s your personal mission
As opposed to your apparent personal mission of trying to declare groups dead which actually aren't?
Bye now Mr. Gaslighter.
…it’ll still be 35 users/month
I'm not sure you are aware how irrelevant this is. This could mean as little as a single user opening the community page daily, or 30 different users accidentally navigating into the community page from the main page just because an article showed up in their feed.
To frame the absurdity of this argument, I moderate [email protected] , which in the past month registered also 30 users/month, and that community is also dead.
if you feel that it’s your personal mission to generate traffic for a particular channel on a lemmy instance
Oh! One last fact check on your false claims - I don't even post on 1 instance! P.S. take note of the upvotes.
