[Poll] Anyone can make 100 accounts with VPNs and vote with the current process, should we restrict voting to IP address?
[Poll] Anyone can make 100 accounts with VPNs and vote with the current process, should we restrict voting to IP address?
Final vote: NO
Should probably use something that only allows 1 vote per IP address. I think strawpoll.com and livepoll.io can do that.
VPN voting is also not allowed with this poll. I personally use a VPN and will have to turn mine off to vote on this.
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Democracy takes work.
Using an off-site tool for voting trades our current problems for others. We would have no way to limit voting to only users of this instance, allowing anyone to brigade our votes.
Basically, the same problem as a single user making 100s of accounts to manipulate a vote.
I think instead we need to limit voting to user accounts of a certain age, and with X number of comments. We can all help with this by reporting accounts that are too young, or appear to have bot generated comments.
Until new tools are developed and built into Lemmy for voting, we'll all have to chip in. Because...
Democracy takes work.
"America isn't easy. America is advanced citizenship; you've gotta want it bad, cuz it's gonna put up a fight." --President Andrew Shepherd, The American President
Seems to me the moment TheDude announced there'd be member votes on instance policy and direction was the moment a certain subset of folks lost their minds. "We shouldn't vote at all." "Voting in a federation is pointless." "We should restrict the vote." "What if tHeY vote?!?!"
- It's early days. We will develop procedures that will work, especially as tools are developed for this still-young platform.
- The matters that will be voted on here: Really not that serious. Stuff like electing new admins, federating/defederating with other instances, removing communities I have to imagine, on one of many instances in the Fediverse. This body won't get to take away pensions or deny people healthcare. What doom do people foresee?
- The way I figure it, we have a more general need to prevent mass account abuse, keeping out spam commenters etc. I figure a lot of those measures will also prevent a lot of problems with member votes. Those along with some straightforward principles like voters must be local members, voters accounts must be older than the discussion thread pertaining to this vote, A vote may not be an account's first activity, etc. should be sufficient.
This is fairly easy to game too though. Lots of people maintain a dozen alts. I think human verification with a service requirement should be the way to earn a vote.
Service guarantees citizenship