3 of those 8 were shot down by patriot missiles. I like speculating too, but I would think photos of F16s operating in Ukraine would leak pretty quickly just from excited civilians or air force crew
Was thinking "what speculation"? An F-16 is going to draw a lot of attention very very quickly. Nobody is speculating because either they have them or they don't and it's not much of a secret.
You can't even have your mobik bro suck your dick behind a bombed out building without someone filming you both getting blown up. I suspect we would know fairly quickly if they had them up and running. Not saying it's not possible but I'd be very impressed if they did and we had not seen them on the internet by now.