A troll (https://lemm.ee/u/shinigamiookamiryuu) is a new moderator of AskLemmy on Lemmy.world. They recently trolled about how Elon Musk's Nazi salute "has been debunked". What can be done about this?
Hello. I wasn't sure where to post about this and a friend directed me here. This is about AskLemmy on the Lemmy.world instance's newly appointed mod, shinigamiookamiryuu.
When people give evidence of those reprehensible things in the form of direct links, they will call it "slander". When this fails to work, they then try to gaslight everyone by saying "you're taking it out of context" "you cannot speak for my intentions" , hoping people fall for it. This is a very common tactic they've used for years. Don't fall for it.
They paint themselves as a targeted victim, hoping people (including mods/admins) take their word for it and don't look into the links that got posted.
Here's a screenshot of them telling a trans person to "do what the person in Nashville did". They are referring to the Nashville school shooter, Aiden Hale, who was trans. They also called them a Japanese slur that is equivalent to the f-word
Here's them trolling about how Elon Musk's Nazi salute "has been debunked though" and then trolling people once those people proved them wrong by gaslighting them about how "you can't speak for other people's intentions!".
They like to portray themselves as an innocent person who is "being targeted for no reason" hoping that mods and admins who are unaware of their history take their word for it without looking into things. They will claim to mods/admins that they're being doxed because their alias, which the troll publicly posts everywhere, was mentioned in posts exposing them. They do this because they want people who point out what they're doing to be banned, not because they're actually concerned about doxing. Please bear in mind that this user has been caught using an AI generated voice trying to pass it off as their own and they have been permabanned from Discord servers for making up excuses when asked by mods to prove they are who they say they are. They are using a fake internet persona.
Another thing this user will do is sign up on websites using the exact usernames of the people who originally exposed them on DeviantArt and then, once called out for this, will troll about being "inspired" by those usernames, omitting the fact they've 1. done this dozens of times 2. they only steal the usernames of the people who exposed them on DeviantArt. They'll also list their country on the impersonation accounts as being from the country of the person they're impersonating, among other things, like pretending to have DID on an account that's named after a person on DeviantArt who actually has DID and then manipulate people by claiming people calling them out on this are "denying DID exists".
They report any posts that aren't on their side, claiming they're being doxed because the poster used their alias, an alias they publicly use throughout the internet, and are known for faking many aspects of their persona online.
I apologize for the lengthy post, but is it appropriate for such a person to be a mod on AskLemmy, which is a popular community, given their actions both on Lemmy and off-site?
edit: They're now in this thread saying Elon Musk's Nazi salute was debunked and are comparing it to Pokemon.Link
And I repeat, intentions matter when it comes to meaning. There are many reasons to have mixed feelings about Elon Musk, but he is still an individual who still has his own reasons for things that we might not know of, especially if we're going to conclude them just based on scattered other things he has said and done, both good and bad. Not everything is about fascism (and, as a reminder, I have condemned both him and Nazism in the very memorabilia used to accuse me of supporting them), and even then, if you try to triangulate his intentions based on what he has said in the past, there are still a number of things it could point to, since it has all been vague. Aside from a few misconceptions of history he holds, which includes some conspiracy theories and which I condemn, I've yet to see him connected to the actual ideology.
Oh my god. They sealioned you about the concept of sealioning. Why did I make it this far? What is it about all this weaponized nonsense that draws me like a nature documentary?
Yeah, I have to admit sealioning about sealioning is something I've never seen 😂
I think it's because it's like watching a slow moving train crash. Like, in the evidence provided is how they gaslight, and then they proceed to gas light in these comment sections 🤣
Just remember, for people like them, having the last word is "winning" an argument lol.
Based on the definition everyone gives sealioning, appeal to a reasonable or due process is not sealioning. If the criticism was about "sealioning", the few people here who have said even quasi-supportive or middle ground things like "maybe she doesn't understand" or "maybe the response to her defense is in fact overkill" wouldn't have, themselves, be met with ridicule. So I would genuinely, and with solid reason, question that this is what that is about.
If a total stranger came by you on the street and randomly dumped damning claims about the deeds and misdeeds of a vaguely known individual in your neighborhood, each claim with "evidence" which has at least some room for interpretation, would it not be normal for those involved to, in turn, allow questionability to be brought forward? Nobody has tended to ask me for my perspective, as would be normal in a court of law (if that's where this was being settled). So to then stand up to that, only to be pushed back with accusations of this "sealioning" I keep hearing about, at least amounts to attack by bias, even if the people making those accusations do not intend it like that. If we used the logic of sealioning accusations on everything, we wouldn't have courts or fact checkers. Imagine if all Elon Musk had to do when condemned by his community notes program is to say "oh you silly sealioners, you don't know the half of it."