it's good to look in the mirror and understand the material outcomes of voter behavior
it's good to look in the mirror and understand the material outcomes of voter behavior
I have problems with people who abstained. The hard thing is, how do you change voter behavior?
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Honestly? What is the actual difference?
Harris would stand by and allow a genocide while Trump cheers on a genocide? And you think Harris deserved my vote because she wouldn't be so gauche while being complicit in genocide?
You're welcome to that opinion, I guess, but spare me the smugness.
My honest question: Why are liberals so caught up about how Leftists voted instead of any issue that might have changed the outcome? Why aren't there daily posts about Biden waiting until July to drop out? Democrats are more obsessed with blaming the left for their failures than winning against the right.
Honestly? What is the actual difference?
Well, as of now, at least tens of thousands of dead Palestinians and their families. You people claim to care about Palestinians, and yet you say shit like this.
You mean the 40k that were killed under Biden or are you claiming that Harris would be different?
What has Trump actually done differently? There has been no policy change.
No policy change? He's attempting to get the US out of the UN, he's trying to sanction the ICC, he's trying to roll back the hold that Biden put on delivery of 2000lb bombs, and that's just what I could find on a quick 5 minute search. No policy change? Get the fuck outta here man
he’s trying to sanction the ICC
"We've made our position clear on the ICC. We don't recognize their jurisdiction." - Joe Biden
He's attempting... He's trying... He's trying...
So...no change, got it.
He's issued executive orders for all of those things I listed you disingenuous walnut
As a leftist, I'm hoping the never-kamala types can rejoin the rest of the leftists in opposing outright fascism, thanks.
shrug Someone asked a question. I answered, yet you can't answer my questions, because you know Harris would support Israel too.
My state went blue, regardless, so....I again have to wonder why people are so concerned with relitigating debates that don't matter, but fwiw I was still completely correct about.
Of course she would support Israel too. The argument is that Trump would be worse, which is now demonstrably true.
It matters because unless you see through the propaganda pushed by zionists/russia/whoever else wants the west to fall - you will side with them again.
By "demonstrably true" you mean you won't admit that the Democrats wouldn't do anything for Gaza either. This is a fun conversation to go around in circles every day isn't it. Have fun punching left while you continue to do nothing to protect people.
I'm not punching left I'm punching up at the authoritarians. There's no-one left of me.
By “demonstrably true” I mean the things we said would happen (West Bank sold off to Adelson, genocide would ramp up across the board, annexation of all palestianian areas) are now coming to fruition.
"Left"/"Right" are somewhat squishy labels, but it's odd to say "there's no one to the left of me". I take it you mean that you discount anyone to the left of you as unserious...just like everyone else.
I just wish that Democrats would accept reality. Muttering about people you mostly agree with, but whose principles lead them to act differently than your principles doesn't help anyone.
Neither Gaza nor leftists determined the outcome of the election. "Trump would be worse" is not a winning slogan and Dems won't win until people realize this.
I mean, you brought it up.
Completely left on the authoritarian scale and the social one. Economic axis isn’t about morality but mine is also the best there. (Neo proudhonian / mutualist via non violent agorist counter economic revolution)
Fuck the dems. If there’s one thing we can agree on they shouldn’t get back in.
I am a pragmatist. And the best option at the time was not letting that lunatic anywhere near power. Unless you’re an accelerationist but that ain’t the argument most are making.
It’s impossible to know the impact it had on people on sitting it out. Probably they just stole it anyway but still. Hate to see leftists enabling the fascists.