A drone collided with one of the only Super Scooper planes fighting the LA wildfires, grounding a key resource
A drone collided with one of the only Super Scooper planes fighting the LA wildfires, grounding a key resource
The aircraft, named the Quebec 1, struck the drone at around 1 p.m. Thursday and has been grounded.
Summary
A drone collision grounded one of two Super Scooper planes battling Los Angeles wildfires, leaving a critical resource unavailable.
The collision damaged the aircraft's wing, forcing its grounding, and temporarily paused other firefighting flights, creating significant delays.
The FAA emphasized the dangers of flying drones near wildfires, noting it’s a federal crime with penalties up to $75,000 and prison time.
Over 36,000 acres have burned, with officials warning that delays in air support allow wildfires to spread rapidly, endangering lives and property.
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It would be nice to have clarification that the drone was being operated by a private individual. Is it possible that this was an accident by another group trying to address the wildfires problem? I think the reason for that drone flying in the first place is relevant to gain some context.
This is the only speculation laid out in the article around the operator:
The drone operator has not been identified, but there has been speculation online, with many social media users pointing to photography accounts that have posted aerial images of the fires.
Yeah, it's not just "America" it's "LA"...
Occam's razor is some shit head ignored important safety regulations for views.
Reminds me of the 4chan user who gave live updates of his bank robbery. People can't help but publish their crimes for clout
Don't drones broadcast identifying information? I'm surprised they aren't able to find the operator.
Most do not. And most people don't register their drones with the FAA even when required to.
Mine both have their registration information written on the hull, so if they're ever found at a crash site, the FAA will know they were mine.
I'm surprised the drone isn't embedded into the wing.
The Los Angeles Fire Department released photos of the plane, including one showing the damage. It said the plane was struck by "a civilian drone."
The Federal Aviation Administration has opened an investigation, and noted in a statement that it had not authorized anyone unaffiliated with firefighting operations to fly drones in the area.https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/quebec-sopfeu-plane-grounded-1.7427777
My money's on it being LAPD. A cop would have just the attitude needed to think the rules don't apply to them.
I don't know about the states, but in the UK. A police force decided to operate a drone for their own use. The CAA tried to politely educate them on the rules, and were, effectively told to eff off. A £35,000 ($43,000) fine was quite an effective slap on the wrist.
Article?
The initial incident was this one.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-15520279
Unfortunately I got the inter governmental spat details from people involved. I work with big drones, and I've heard bits of it from both sides.
I'll see if I can track down about the fine itself.
How exactly would a drone address the problem?
Detailed fire tracking. From the ground, it's difficult to tell if the fires is wrapping around you etc. By getting a bit of altitude, you can see what's going on, and act accordingly.
There are other options. Heck, fire bombers usually are accompanied by their own sorter aircraft.
It's likely a scale thing. A satellite gives full coverage, but it's working at a large scale, with a long time lag. A plane is more local, with less time lag, but still quite a large scale. A drone is hyper local, with almost no time lag. Depending who is asking, all 3 can be extremely useful.
I can unfortunately see where communication could break down. Local firefighters wanted hyper local information. They didn't coordinate with the larger effort, and so the accident could have happened.
And I think it was more likely some dumbass recording for their social media page.
I see zero evidence that it was some official operation.
That's what bird dogs are for (although I'm unsure if Cali is using them).
...bird dogs? 🤨
Bird dogs are small prop planes that monitor forest fires and help to liason between the tower and other fire fighting units (like helis and water bombers).
They're used a lot in remote regions where there are no control towers.
Each drop is carefully choreographed. A plane known as a bird dog arrives first to monitor the fire and draft a plan of attack.
Highly trained firefighters working as air attack officers sit beside the bird dog pilot and co-ordinate other aircraft on the mission, directing each drop to ensure the retardant hits the best spot.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/alberta-airtanker-pilot-wildfire-season-1.7219664
Indeed.