Generative AI is a climate disaster
Generative AI is a climate disaster
A left-wing podcast for better technology and a better world.
The cost of simply retrieving an answer from the Web is infinitely smaller than the cost of generating a new one.
Great interview with Sasha Luccioni from Huggingface on all the ways that using generative AI for everything is both a) hugely costly compared to existing methods, and b) insane.
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Nope it isn't. You blame AI companies for pollution they didn't generate. Blame the energy sector.
Why the hell aren't we using mix of nuclear and renewables in this day and age is beyond me
holy shit your post history of full of takes this bad, that's an impressive track record of dim. must be exhausting
oh wow there’s some literal “it’s not a nazi unless it’s an old dead German” shit in there, they’re that kind of fash debatebro
yeah, they don't teach much about fascist atrocities in ethiopia, and then people feel compelled to defend the good name of the boys in the black shirts because the poor dupes didn't build the concentration camps – just were allied to the builders.
yeah sorry I kinda undersold it
thank fuck they came out swinging
And yet, my opponents in discussion failed to provide good counterarguments. You aren't going to convince me of anything by hating my post history
And yet, my opponents in discussion
good gods you're going to be the most insufferable kind of person, aren't you
You aren't going to convince me of anything
this was a bit of a given
bet you also think the climate cost of cryptocurrency is also a failing of the energy sector to deliver clean power to the innocent sweet little industrial-scale mining tycoons, don't you
Nope it isn’t. You blame AI companies for pollution they didn’t generate. Blame the energy sector.
don't talk about providing good counterarguments, please
see, because they can't provide their own, talking about good arguments is all they have left
I one-up your well-sourced article with a "nope it isn't", your move.
What, you want to tell me I'm somehow obligated to exactly know where and how every service I use is produced?
Talk about a horrible take.
it's not “hating your post history”, it's just realisation that you're a shitty debatelord and talking to you is waste of time.
it’s not “hating your post history”
it has been
[0]days since I got accused of having emotions about a driveby posterhow rude
(e: not that you did it ofc, flere, but ykwim)
And yet you're talking to me... To prove some point perhaps? Feel free to ignore or block me if you don't like my posts.
we can do better than block your shitty posts
nie, ja tylko ostrzegam, że wylecisz stąd na kopach, misiu kolorowy. lepiej ci będzie na wykopie.
i wanted to know how did you know, then i looked up his comment history on kbin and i wish i didn't (he extruded three more comments before he clocked that he's banned)
a hunch, really: i've met the type and had my suspicions, and then i've found that he posted the link about polish antitrust & consumer protection watchdog fining paypal, which is generally niche outside poland.
misiu kolorowy
huh, first time I run across this (although admittedly my polish is dangerously-seat-of-pants)
long, boring explanation follows
spoiler
there's an informal mode of address that conveys the (one-sided, frequently) sense of familiarity, which goes [2nd person singular] [noun in vocative case] [adjective referring to the noun], like panie szanowny (lit. esteemed sir, but the inversion from the adj + noun to noun + adj signals different mode; so “szanowny panie” is formal, “panie szanowny” is shortening distance or expressing annoyance); it can be used, and frequently is, as a phrase that's a personal affectation (e.g. “królu złoty!”, literally “golden majesty”). the affectation is usually rather annoying.
on the other hand “misiu” (vocative case of diminutive word for “bear” or “bear cub” or “teddy bear”) is a common word of endearment.
so “misiu kolorowy” is a bit of a wordplay on both, and should generally convey serious lack of respect and clear annoyance. (i'm guilty of using this from time to time since the times of polish usenet.)
there's an added bonus in that there was a popular child series “miś colargol”, the pronunciation of “colargol” and “kolorowy” are pleasantly alliterative. (now this really shows my age….)
I'M A BAT
I'M GAY
Since we aren't using those it is in fact a climate disaster currently and they know that.
Assuming you want to ground your argument in our reality.
Some energy sources are and some arent polluting. Do you suggest I should audit every single one of these companies on how they power stuff?
I don't even know if development of AI is productive or not, maybe it just consumes electricity, or maybe in the future AI will build energy sources that will sustain humanity for ever.