Realized it's been a while

Hello everyone,

Basically title. At the moment I use the "hide post" feature when I see this kind of posts in generic communities (e.g. [email protected] ), but I was curious to see if anyone had another option, such as maybe a tampermonkey script?

Thank you for your help.

[email protected]

[email protected]

H5 unstable

It appears that something is causing unsheduled reboots on host H5. The cause is being investigated... Date Created: 2024-10-21 07:07:56 (an hour ago)

Example (others have been removed as that person has been banned)

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Asking as there has been a few comments mentioning this with the new [email protected] taking over [email protected]

[email protected] for additional context on those recent events if you are interested

Also, an older post for more context on how lemmy.ml is managed: https://lemmy.world/post/16211417

Curious to hear other thoughts about this, as I'm trying to keep [email protected] active, but might suggest to move it elsewhere if a lot of people prefer not to interact with lemmy.ml communities

Disclaimer: The issue here is not completely related to the bot presence, but more about the justification used. People would probably be less annoyed if the mods stated "this is our decision, and it is final", rather than to try to use admins as an excuse.

As usual, for people looking for other world news communities

• [email protected]
• [email protected] (warning: single instance admin)

https://lemmy.world/comment/12825224

https://lemmy.world/comment/12834553

For other threads about the MBFC bot:

• https://lemmy.world/post/19665956
• https://lemmy.world/post/18073105

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https://lemmy.fediverse.observer/dailystats

To discover new communities:

• [email protected]
• [email protected]
• [email protected]

For a community dedicated to community growing

• [email protected]

Tl;dr:

• these are old events, 9 months ago.
• we have since then mostly moved on, but I still thought it could be interesting to document those in this community
• the power trip was a single mod not wanting to discuss how a community should be run and banning people wanting to discuss it
• the new communities we created following this power trip ([email protected] and [email protected]) are now more active than the initial one

Hello everyone,

I added the summary of the event in the tl;dr above. If you are here, you probably want to know the details of what happened.

Starting point

As you may remember, there used to be a movie focused instance called lemmy.film. Following its shutdown, a few users were looking for a new movies and TV shows community that would not be on Lemmy.world (if you want to know why some people are against overcentralization on Lemmy.world, you can have a look here: https://lemm.ee/post/30444527 and https://feddit.uk/post/18336398 )

While I was contacting the lemm.ee admins to become mod of the at the time abandoned [email protected], another mod (I'll just call them "The mod" in this thread) created [email protected]. We contacted the other people who were on the old lemmy.film communities and started posting.

I posted a lot over there, if you sort by Old, you'll see a lot of my posts from back then: https://lemm.ee/c/moviesandtv?dataType=Post&sort=Old

• https://files.catbox.moe/vrnv1t.png

I was also trying to set up discussion threads as they were things who were missing on Lemmy at the time, and a lot of people were complaining about that

• https://files.catbox.moe/75zkck.png

I also started asking for a weekly thread "What have you been watching": https://lemm.ee/post/13386100 which was denied. It wasn't a big deal for me, I was mostly focused on growing the community, I assumed that we could revisit that topic later. That was on 31 October 2023.

Success for the community

12 November, we celebrate our 300 subs: https://lemm.ee/post/14621123

17 November, I start a weekly thread: https://lemm.ee/post/15176837. 7 comments, reasonable success for a first.

26 November, I am appointed as mod: https://lemm.ee/modlog/408863, and start pinning the weekly threads.

4 December, I am removed as mod. I ask the mod to make me mod again (purely because it's easier to pin threads), they never answer.

10 December, I open another thread on how to handle movie discussions: https://lemm.ee/post/17546624

I let it go for 6 weeks, I keep posting, after all, this is more or less okay. By then, the community has around 1100 subscribers.

The power trip

30 January, I open a thread to discuss with people in the community how they wanted to handle movie reviews:

• https://lemm.ee/pictrs/image/dc0a56ca-bcca-466b-b351-8815c8ab34c9.png
• https://lemm.ee/modlog/408863

The post get removed

I open another thread "Are we not allowed to discuss the way this community is managed?"

• https://discuss.tchncs.de/pictrs/image/c1c8fa89-8cad-4914-aec0-c2c30ab70405.jpeg

I get banned

I use an alt to comment

> Hello, As you banned my other account, I am now commenting with this one. I'm not going to comment on this that much, the modlog is public, people interested can have a look at make their own opinions. For history, the two removed posts: (screenshots) I guess we can just conclude that we disagree on how to manage this kind of communities, which is mostly fine, that's what Lemmy is about after all: freedom. I'll probably contact the people interested in review threads (and there seems to be a few, based on the removed threads and the 200 upvotes on the other post) and see it we can offer an alternative for people looking for a more structured community. Good luck

Comments gets removed: https://lemm.ee/modlog/408863

The mod then posts how they want to address the community issues: https://lemm.ee/post/22459747

My alt gets banned.

Please not that those are permabans. Up to this day, I am still banned on those two accounts from that community.

The aftermath

Let's be honest here, I was a bit annoyed. I had been actively posting to a community, helping building it from scratch from months, to get banned just for asking how we could manage this community better.

I reached out to sunaurus, the lemm.ee main admin, who told me that he couldn't do anything, as his admin policy was to not interfere with mod decisions. It's a fair policy that I could understand (even though I was still annoyed). They made me mod of [email protected], and I thought I would take it from there.

I built [email protected] with the same energy I had put in the previous community. I found other people who had seen the drama happening on the other side and wanted to join forces in building another community. I appointed all of them as mods, because why not.

Over time, our community became more and more popular, and now has 2.97k monthly active users, while [email protected] has 1.52k

The mod had promised to add other mods to the community. They did for 4 months (https://lemm.ee/modlog/408863) but then removed them in June 2024.

In the meantime, they also banned another user in April 2024 for similar reasons to the ones used for me: https://lemm.ee/post/30754133

They also removed the AMA we organized in May 2024 on [email protected] (https://lemm.ee/post/31335226) because "Unvarified AMA not organized by this community - seems like spam" (https://lemm.ee/modlog/408863)

More recently, we started a [email protected] community, which now has 2.35k monthly active users.

That's it.

I'm still a mod in my city local subreddit.

One of the other mods is also involved in a Whatsapp group which, over time, has evolved to a quite active community, with subgroups dedicated to several topics to help people settling in the city (housing, finance, parenting, etc.)

The Whatsapp group has recently requested to add a link to their website in the subreddit sidebar. The mod who is also involved in thee WhatsApp group brought the topic in the mod chat.

One of the oldest mods (who isn't even modding that much these days, it's mostly another one single person, poor them btw) replied with the statement in the title.

Seems so weird to me to want to gatekeep the FAQ of a subreddit that much. The objective is to help newcomers to the city integrate, why make it difficult to have all pointers in the same place?

In addition, this is probably the kind of reactions you'll get when trying to talk about a Lemmy community on a subreddit.

[email protected]

[email protected]

The community already has 852 subs, but still worth promoting it as it some people might be unaware about it

https://web.archive.org/web/20241009152430/https://old.reddit.com/r/TheoryOfReddit/comments/1fzq991/we_reached_the_point_where_ai_generated_comments/

Comment in question

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@[email protected]

@[email protected]

@[email protected]