Tankies say the west is largely responsible for climate change
When China is the number one producer of greenhouse emissions in the world.
Communist at Hex Bear sticky a post saying America deserved 9/11
Thousands of Americans with families were evaporated. People who had no business with anything but making a few dollars to feed their family
Capitalists robbed us all of this, and communism is the push to get it back.
Capitalism is what naturally formed over the millennium.
hierarchies exist and form in groups of lobsters. A species that human's ancestors diverged from like 500 million years ago. They are fundamental to not just human societies but all societies that have shown to be able to exist.
Capitalist societies are the most friendly towards the LGBT+ community. That's a fact. Communist countries don't allow gay people to marry.
I already gave you two great examples of the classless, stateless societies that brave men and women built before outside forces attacked and murdered them all.
Defense is part of a functioning society. If you can't survive long enough to form adequate defense it can still be said to not work. A billionaire can fund a commune in America where everyone is equal but that doesn't make it a communist Utopia. 1. It was funded by capitalism. 2. It's not self sustainable. 3. It's temporary.
Kids? Statistically it's still very low. But Safety is not a priority that should always be put above individual rights in America. Especially when as soon as you give up gun rights the state can come in and take the children. Really hard to bully your citizens at their homes when they are all strapped like Rambo.
Those that don't like guns though I recommend moving to Europe or Australia. So America can stay free
You haven't even remotely given an example of a working communist country. Because you can't. Because it doesn't exist. Less people starve in capitalist countries than in communist countries so you are just making more bs arguments here.
American autistic children aren't getting arrested for saying a cop looks like a lesbian like in England. America has lots of freedom of speech and gun freedoms. Its really only lacking in privacy rights which funny enough is supposed to be guaranteed in the constitution but hasn't been interpreted that way digitally.
There might be some freedoms lacking due to over regulation and over taxation. For example you can't open a hot dog stand anywhere like you could in China.
That's not unique for a first world nation though.
If you cannot make a pro communist argument without invoking the word "Nazi" you have no argument whatsoever.
England still has a king. Kings were defeated by freedom loving Americans.
And the American political system has been proven to work at least for 300 years. Communism hasn't been shown to work any amount of time.
Indeed, a monarchy is preferable to communism. People actually had food in a monarchy.
Even if what you say is true. (It's not). If every time "Real" communism begins to manifest it gets instantly destroyed by stronger societies isn't that a sign it doesn't work?
It's not real. It never was. And even if it worked momentarily in a brief pocket of the population that doesn't mean it will ever work on a large nation.
Again there is no such thing as a working communist Utopia but it's not real and can't work. Those are examples when people like you get their way and attempt to make one. They did remove money for a while BTW.
Did you know that communist killed millions in Russia, China, North Korea? Like objectively more than Hitler? Nazis and communist can both fuck off.
This just shows how little you understand about nature and economies
The big thing people like you fail to understand is how natural capitalism is. And how no society has ever been successful without it.
Let me give you an example. Let's replace the word capitalism with nature. And people with Lions.
and the crazy thing is nature is still going on today. Lions are really ripping animals apart . Spilling their blood. Eating them. And some lions don't even find any food and actually starve to death!
Marxism is not a functioning society. It's a critique on nature. And nature doesn't give a fuck about your critique. You can call it cruel all you want but if you try to go against nature you will find nothing but death. Societies and economies are not created from cold book theories. They are formed from a series of tools that have been proven to work.
That's why communism has failed in every attempt. It's not born from anything real.
Unions are probably the only good thing to come out of the movement but are really just a show of force more than a critique of nature.
It's hard to imagine the Utopia imagined in the chronicles of Narnia could be worse than what we currently have under capitalism.
But like Carl Marx and what his followers imagine it's not real. its made up fantasy. Real societies function on proven functioning principles. Not made up nonsense.
You can say
I want everyone to be equal
But they never can be because everyone is different and so by definition of their own individual existence cannot be. They only way to make everyone equal is to kill everyone. And that's what communism does best.