Speaker's Nazi veteran invite 'profoundly embarrassing' Trudeau says, as Rota faces calls to resign

What this guy did is irrelevant to the question whether he should be honoured in parliament due to his past as a member of the SS. Because he was not found guilty of war crimes that's why he's allowed to live peacefully here in Canada till this day. However, to be honoured in the parliament there has to be evidence of him done overwhelming good. Not committing war crimes as a former Nazi does not meet that threshold for him to be there.

You don't need to convince me that not all members of the Nazi party are necessarily evil, I never said they are and I don't care. The question at hand here is whether the individual should be honoured by Canada as a nation.

Because I am being judgemental. That wasn't supposed to be subtext. I'm literally telling you're being ignorant, but now you're signalling that you're not being ignorant, you're being an apologist for the most Nazified troops.

No one knows what this guy did during WWII but you’re all so quick to assume because he was SS he most certainly did something bad. That’s lazy thinking and if you had any shame, you’d be embarrassed by your words

This reads like you're either completely and utterly ignorant of who the SS were, or you're a Nazi apologist. It's telling you think there's more shame to be had about assuming an SS member acted like an SS member than you are that you're trying to suggest it's possible that there were good SS members.

Like Oskar Schindler, he too was a Nazi but he saved lots of Jews and Jews love him for it. I’ve not heard 1 Jew call Oskar a Nazi but this entire thread is acting like just being SS means you’re the worst person in the world, without any merit.

You already tried to argue about people having to go along with the flow of an authoritarian country, and now you're reversed course to try to justify "Not all Nazis" while using one of the biggest examples of a secret anti-Nazi. Nazis don't save Jewish people en masse and sabotage Nazi arms, and it's fucking insane that you're suggesting that. If any argument here deserves shame, it's this one.

We sure live in a fucked up place where merit doesn’t matter and the opinion of people who admittedly know nothing and are just assuming from nothing.

Explain how this doesn't apply to you.

I also didn’t say Hitler Youth and the SS were comparable. You clearly don’t know how to read if someone is making a comparison or not so you come off as uneducated and ignorant.

Then why did you make the direct comparison in your rhetoric? You literally said it reminded you. Do you actually have that little clue about what you were saying?

For someone who told me I don’t know much, it’s clear as day that you don’t know much.

This statement would mean a hell of a lot more if your contention with my statements wasn't just doubling down on your already ignorant statements, accidentally revealing you didn't even know how you were speaking, and making some absolutely inane new comments that show even less of an understanding than before.

You saying I know less is probably a good thing because your idea of how all this played out is pure fiction and fantasy.

Again, simple test: would Schindler be given an ovation in the Bundestag? Or the Knesset? Yes he would, Oskar Schindler is a Righteous Among the Nations. He proved spectacularly that he was "no true Scotchman". An extraordinary exception doesn't nullify the basic rule "nazi bad".

Basically, the same old rule that extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.