Reddit users who switched to Lemmy, what is the most annoying thing you have seen about Lemmy users?
Reddit users who switched to Lemmy, what is the most annoying thing you have seen about Lemmy users?
Honestly, the insistence that Lemmy has better discussions than Reddit. Mostly even popular posts have too few comments to constitute any in depth discussion. I won’t be going back to Reddit but I miss the vibrancy.
This but about how almost everything about Lemmy is spun as either good, or better than reddit's equivalent.
Like the other day I saw a post about how Lemmy's active users were on the decline, trying to claim that was somehow good for Lemmy. Or back when Lemmy had its /r/place copy, there were plenty of people saying it was better than reddit's. Basically anything about Lemmy that's somewhat lacking has people desperately trying to defend it as actually superior.
It borders on delusional at times. Yes Lemmy is good, but reddit is still better in dozens of ways, almost all of them related to user count. And this is coming from one of the people who deleted their reddit account and replaced it with Lemmy cold turkey - I haven't been back there (except for porn) in almost 8 weeks.
but reddit is still better in dozens of ways, almost all of them related to user count.
It's not though, because it's all locked away through an interface that doesn't work for many people. And it doesn't matter how good what's on the other side is, if there is a barrier that ensures I won't ever be on the other side.
I still use both Lemmy and Reddit and I honestly think Lemmy is in a sweet spot where there are enough comments for a discussion but not enough to go off topic.
Reddit discussions are never about the OP, they're always riffing on an off-topic joke that someone made in a reply to the already off-topic top comment.
Eh, Lemmy has the issue where the activity is low enough that the substantial number of low effort comments and comments that regurgitate the same bland sentiment are overwhelming.
These comments were annoying on Reddit and was my primary reason for leaving.
Hackernews manages a better balance. It is not as active as Reddit but there are a lot of insightful comments that balance out the low-effort contributions.
As an example: I’d happily happily throw a block party the day Elon Musk launches himself into the sun. I don’t need to see an article every time he takes a dump and the corresponding 50 comments about “elon is a menace”
Or anything Threads. The amount of exaggerated and irrational commentary about that was incredibly offputting.
It really depends on the topic. The big topics in Lemmy are better. But there's a lot of niche content that just isn't there.
Same dog piling happens on lemmy as it did in reddit. You try to introduce any nuance for discussion on a circle jerk thread, and it's down vote knee reactions.
I tried tildes, but it's the opposite problem. Pages of text for simple arguments that could be expressed in a paragraph, and people mincing words being too polite to get to the fucking point that they disagree. And if you're blunt and to the point, it ruffles feathers.
Lemmy users also tend to be stuck in one mind set and that is they know what they are talking about all the time no matter what even if their opinion is actually kind of shit.
"lemmy users", most people here have been here for barely 2 months. The site doesn't have a defined culture yet, if it ever will given its fragmentation.
I get that you can't stand having to see opinions you disagree with, but you're really trying to prop up some punching bag here that doesn't exist.
I half-agree with this. I think that this depends a lot on the topic and, while the smaller amount of comments does hurt discussion depth, the individual comments themselves partially offset this by being more thoughtful.
And, while anecdotal, I think that there's a considerably lower ratio of comments with negative discussion value here in Lemmy than in Reddit. I'm not even talking about the out-of-place jokes (although they add noise), but shit like this:
- "waaah, TL;DR!!" discouraging in-depth explainations
- feigned lack of understanding as ad nauseam tactic
- context illiteracy
- unchecked assumptions towards other users, for the sake of ad hominem
- "trust me"
Don't get me wrong; you do find this crap here, but IMO it's way less than in Reddit. And they hurt discussion because they either waste the time of the more thoughtful and knowledgeable users, or outright disengage them.
I agree 100%. On Reddit you usually had the same style top few comments but under those you could actually see good conversation and discussions. Here everyone thinks they are right and you are wrong and nothing you can say can change that.
Yeah, I miss hoping on some niche tech sub and saying that I was having trouble with xyz specific thing and I’d had multiple people comment that were super knowledgeable about that exact thing.
Tankies.
You can't have a discussion about anything without some tankie blaming it on Ukrainians / the west / capitalism, etc.
"Oh you stubbed your toe on the table? See, tables are oppressive furniture of the bourgeoisie. The Chinese government wanted to make all tables toe-stubbing resistent, but that would affect IKEA's bottom line and the pharmaceutical industry's profits. I have a source from tankiepeoplesmagazine to back this up."
I made the mistake of mentionning social democracy once. This was followed by the most pedantic, insufferable and useless argument I have ever had on the internet. I had better discussions with wall. This was first and last time I was replying to those comments. It is easy to ignore anyway. Sometime you learn the hard way.
I'm genuinely curious to see that ... do you have a link at all or something to search for?
Omg, so much this. So fucking annoying.
bourgeoisie
Always makes me laugh when I see this. I'm tempted to start a hexbear bingo, it'll be the first one on the list!
I almost never see this, but I see complaints about "tankies" all the time. I'm not even sure what a tankie is, but it seems about as stupid as the term "woke".
Have a look at comments in any news article regarding Ukraine. They will simp for Russia just because they are not US allies.
A tankie is commonly used to refer to someone who blindly defends the actions of the USSR, China, North Korea, etc. Going as far as denying human rights abuses and genocide.
It's not the same thing as woke.
All the empty communities without any motivation from the creating user to actually be involved in their own community. I honestly think they should be deleted if they're not active. Inb4 "be the change/create your own". No, I don't want to run a community so I don't create a community. Neither should you. Nobody benefits from all these empty reservations of space. It might actually hinder the people who have a need for a community. It's like showing up at an empty store. "Oh I guess I'll go somewhere else for this then"
I’m annoyed by all those Facebook-type boomer comics you see on basically all meme subs. Reddit culture managed to get rid of them, but for some reason people here seem to love them
Look, sometimes people enjoy brainless humor and that's okay. People have hard days. Twelve hours in the field days. Sometimes people are tired and just want something easy and that's perfectly valid.
As the sages of old said, "It's okay to not like things. It's okay, but don't be a dick about it."
I know, I don’t really care, I’m just replying to the thread :)
It’s annoying but also interesting to see that people upvote different things
Any example? Out of curiosity
This would be the last one I saw. I probably have plenty more examples in my downvotes, but I don’t think they’re accessible on Lemmy :(
Lots of wanna be communists that are well intentioned but have little real world experience
My wife studied sociology, that includes the work of gramchie, Dubois, Lenin, Marx.
I didn't, but I got plenty of exposure. What's clear to me is that hardly anyone actually knows what communism is. That includes Allies and opponents of it.
They all think they do. But they really don't.
Political extremists. So about the same as Reddit, though they seem to be a little more frequent/outspoken here. Also funnily enough the complete opposite side of the spectrum. Used to get called a dirty commie because I believed in Nationalized healthcare, but now I'm apparently a facist for not worshipping the CCP.
This goes not only for the tankies, unfortunately...
I see 1000 more posts against tankies then actual talkie posts.... so like... get off it.
The number of pro-communist posts in here is comical. The amount of anti-capitalist posts is almost comical. Obviously related to some degree.
The lack of posts outside of a few main news and politics communities is frustrating.
It's sad so many capitalism cheerleaders migrated here, considering most of us are literally here fleeing capitalist greed rot.
Some just refuse to learn. The sunk cost fallacy of "I've committed my life to this thing, and no amount of evidence will ever make me accept my mistake as a mistake!"
Should have just stayed to be disrespected by Spez in the name of his profit. He's a good capitalist.
do you think capitalism is good or something
Of systems that have been implemented the best systems have been capitalist based systems.
Unironically yes
Capitalism is the economic equivalent of Nature's own survival of the fittest.
No one will claim that capitalism is being implemented perfectly, that's for sure, but the number of communist clowns on Lemmy is absurd. Bunch of 14 year olds trying to be edgy.
Just lack of numbers. Reddit's at it's best when I can use it to discuss some incredibly niche topic. That early 2000s RTS that nobody remembers? Got a few dozen redditors still posting memes. New indie game drops? There's enough redditors on it that we can talk about it.
But lemmy seems really bad for trying to enjoy any community that isn't a big political or meme centerpiece. Any particular game or IP that isn't a lowest common denominator? It'll get maybe 3 posts a month.
No more interesting discussions of gameplay mechanics or inspirations or character analyses, no burning out an entire workday browsing the top all-time and giggling like an idiot, it's just dead here.
The same massive numbers that made reddit insufferable for some are what make niche communities inhabitable at all.
It's perfectly fine to use both platforms and still enjoy the niche subs on Reddit. It's a shame they're not all in one app/website but it is what it is.
Hopefully if you start creating those topics/communities, people will eventually flock to it.
That's what I'm attempting anyway
Numbers are a double edged sword. Yes, Reddit has lots of active niche communities that are active because of its massive user base, but once you get to anything not niche, there are so many users that any sort of constructive discussion is nearly impossible are you're drowned out from the masses. Using Reddit only for the niche stuff (with ads blocked, of course) and Lemmy for anything else seems like a reasonable solution.
Which early 2000s RTS?
Star Wars: Galactic Battlegrounds
An AoE2 licensed reskin that added new mechanics like shield generators and air units. Still have fond memories of it, and it's been absolutely wild to see that there's still a community for it after all these years.
Earth 2150?
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The amount of people that like to shit on the U.S. constantly... Like damn I get it, we definitely have problems, but people here would have you think it's like the wild wild west over here... I promise I'm not fearing for my life every time I go out.
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The extreme left views (I'm liberal myself but some of the things people say here really have me scratching my head sometimes)
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The amount of Windows bad, Linux good posts.
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The amount of people that immediately shit on Apple because of privacy, but use an Android device that accesses the Google Play store (yes I know you can install custom privacy roms, but let's be real, how many casual users are doing this?)
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People always asking if something is FOSS...
These are just a few off the top of my head.
The amount of people that like to shit on the U.S. constantly
This has been my experience too. It's really quite off-putting.
I was born in Seattle. Grew up in Los Angeles. I was taught American exceptionalism and said the national anthem every school day of my childhood, K-12.
And I believed it all.
My parents, my teachers, my ministers, my neighborhood police, my news sources: They all fucking lied to me, and did so willingly and maliciously like PragerU. The people of the US are fine (no better or worse than any other) but the society that depends on lying to children and jamming them through a doughboy-processing education system to make them interchangeable, disposable, replaceable laborers and soldiers to be expended on billionaire vanity projects really needs to burn.
The society of the United States sucks and, without comment on any other society. It needs to be set right. And I say that as a US citizen.
Yeah it's a thing in most online forums but the reality is pretty opposite. It's a long dead joke at this point and I personally just roll my eyes and move on when I see it.
You can usually tell they are Eurotrash or incel Eastern European within the first 6 words for those types. I just end up blocking them.
I find most Europeans don't understand the size of the US and think thier tiny county somehow equates to what works in a country the size of the US. It's completely lost on them that the EU would be a more apt comparison and the dysfunction between the EU members puts the US dysfunction to shame, but the irony of that is lost on them. By comparison, the member states of the US are effectively a cohesive unit and we act as one and the states have each other's backs even when not required. We have interstate rivalry, but it's mostly good natured and completely forgotten when there's an outside threat. The EU, on the other hand, is a bunch of fiercely proud, independent entities that can barely function when lumped together and they tend to throw each other under the bus when it suits them. The hypocrisy and cognitive dissonance is incredible.
The US has it's problem, oh yes, but the EU isn't an example of how to run a union by any stretch and what works in a tiny country doesn't work in one where a single state is larger and more populace than that entire country.
When you can drive across a country in 2 or 3 hours, I just can't take it seriously as a country. It's like a clown car of a country.
raises hand slowly
my pixel 7 pro uses grapheneOS. been using it for ~2 years now. loving it a lot.
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The sheer amount of pro-communist/pro-china comments is insane here. Plus the number of giant emojis that spam up the whole comment feed. Honestly, most of my real issues come down strictly to Hexbear users. A lot of their behavior completely ruins the platform for me.
That and the lack of fanbases for the things I like. There's very little Star Wars or Halo fan presence here. Feels like Star Trek is the only fandom with any presence here, so I have to go back to reddit for those things.
Despite being a techie myself, I'm frequently irritated by how much technical conversation there is on here. I seem to see comments all the time that use some unrelated computer programming concept as a metaphor or a similar non sequitur. It reeks of intellectual elitism and is just a reminder of what a small community we still are. I kind of miss the amount of 'normal' people on reddit with more varied interests. That said, generally speaking the quality of conversation on here is really high which is amazing.
This. I can use Lemmy for politics and tech/science news, but not much else.
This place is a far worse echo chamber than Reddit, and mods fall right in line. I've seen too many posts get downvoted to hell for simple opinions, and other 'dissenters' get posts removed that should have just been part of open discussions.
I've said this before, even in a lighter tone, and those posts mysteriously disappeared. I'm betting this one will be removed too.
You will tell people facts and you will get down voted because someone thought it's your opinion
Mods are on a different level of power tripping here on lemmy.world. Just today my comment "rent free" got deleted by a mod (in technology) because "it might offend someone and that might lead to an argument." That was seriously the reason I got from the mod L4S for deleting my comment.
I'm not sure in your specific case; no context, no conclusion. But in most contexts I'd probably do the same as that mod, or at the very least scold the user. Because most of the time, "rent free" is: two types of stupid (ad hominem, assumption), aggravating (it's often a taunt), and noisy (it doesn't lead to meaningful discussion). It's that kind of crap that makes the community less engaging for other members.
@abbotsbury mentioned 4chan; well, that's one of the things that I've seen jannies there removing all the fucking time. (For free.)
No soup for you!
But hey, at least you got a reason. I think the squirrelly bastards just remove most posts without question so they can substitute authority over their lack of nuts.
Reddit is Reddit's echo chamber, Lemmy is "pick your echo chamber".
The obsession with Linux and privacy. Every post it seems like anyone using windows is committing a cardinal sin. I have had to use linux in the past, and let me tell you, I don't intend to go back to it unless forced to. I still have mental scars of trying to update my gpu drivers
This! I use Linux on my laptop but also have a desktop that runs Windows 10. Some people here act like windows is completely unusable when in reality it's much more user friendly than Linux.
You have a computer made after 2015, huh?
Some of us are poor. Windows is quite literally unusable for me because the laptop I have it on can't make it past the "pin" screen, I had a choice between steal a new PC or learn linux.
And now that I've learned I can never go back, there was a slight adjustment period but the ability to control everything on the system, the way it handles updates, the lack of bullshittery and candy crush ads, and ads in the file manager I hear they're pushing now on windows, the terminal which scared me when I started is now probably my most frequently used "app," the few windows only programs I need with no alts work in wine well enough, and if I reaaaaally wanted to I could upgrade PCs when I do have money and dual boot so I can still pop into windows if need be. And to top that, I was able to boot into a liveusb on the windows pc, mount the windows drive (bypassing my pin, btw) and rescue my files!
You get that in any early adoption of technology. It tends to be techies who jump on first, whom tend to value those things.
I would love to tell you that today things are much easier with Linux and that it's a seamless plug and play experience. And honestly,a lot of the time it is.
But not always. Right now I'm waiting for a live USB to finish flashing so that I can
chrootmy corrupted GRUB.Still, at the end of the day it's probably 95% hassle free, and I can play AAA games just fine, without having to deal with Windows pushing me to use Bing on Edge. I understand that's not something a lot of people care about, so carry on. I just get excited about how good Linux is these days and like to share it with people.
I feel like people were saying this exact same stuff back in 2008 when Ubuntu really started taking off. I used Ubuntu for years but it was always full of little quirks. The very basic stuff did feel simpler than Windows, but the moment something would go wrong it felt like you were stuck in the deep end.
If anything Lemmy users so far have been much less annoying than most reddit users. I feel like I'm reading through less garbage, and comment sections don't look like the same joke repeated ad nauseum.
Of course you are reading through less garbage. There are like 100 million reddit users and like 10 Lemmy users.
My experience has been different. I feel like I see the same, "Linux is better." Shit all the time. All the memes are also, "Windows user realizing this. Linux user not caring."
Bots copy pasting content from Reddit.
There are community filled only with that, no upvotes, no comment, no nothing.
When you finally block the bot those communities disappear as the bot is the only active user.
When you finally block the bot those communities disappear as the bot is the only active user.
And that's why the bot exists
Hexbear neonazi tankies one one side, overbearing blocking on the other.
People not marking nsfw content nsfw.... Front page is a minefield whilst in public transport
I asked our instance admins to defederate lemmynsfw.com because of this.
The good thing about lemmy is that you can still create an account on that instance if you want to.
That’s the beauty of the federation. It’s not like a subreddit got nuked and is no longer available. I have this account on .world, if I want to see some titties I just move to another node in the wide world of instances. Like various neurons getting cut off from some synapses but still available by other paths.
That and fucking sexualized anime girls. Fucking don't need that shit on my screen
When I first joined Lemmy I was happy with how few anime subs I had to filter compared to reddit...but it seems like the horny weebs are starting to make the switch. I hate that genre (style?) where they draw everyone looking like children. Gross
[Edit] love to get downvoted for saying that hentai with children is disgusting
Use the block button and good luck.
Lol really?
I'm literally logged into an account for porn specifically, and I don't have this problem. I just selct "hide nsfw" and almost never see anything nsfw on all.
The defederation topic and how it impacts me.
I'm an adult, if I find something offensive I'll either block it or ignore it. However, not giving me the choice offends me and IMHO goes against what Lemmy and the fediverse was suppose to deliver.
I understand (and read) the reason's why site owners defederate and I view it largely as "Lemmy isn't mature enough to support more granular blocking - yet", so I wait patiently and hope this trend towards defederation doesn't turn into a powertrip by site owners "for the good of their users...."
Imo, defederation isn't the exile sentence everyone is making out to be. It is used like you said as a bandaid as a moderation tool, but really just about "anyone" can boot up an instance and have complete agency on which Instances are visible.
I'd be more concerned if all the big instances ganged up together to form a whitelist club, but this this is a more complex discussion, and there is no sign of it happenning.
I'd be more concerned if all the big instances ganged up together to form a whitelist club
You'd still be able to join the instances directly, or join an instance that doesn't follow the big "whitelist club".
Right now instances are already split across some lines, and you need accounts on an instance of a certain "group" in order to access the content from those instances... and that's a feature, not a bug.
There's already shared bannlists in the works.
Depends on the reason for me. I totally get why .world blocked those 3 communities (not a defed I know but still) given the possible legal issues and given the admin isn't a lawyer and can't afford to retain a high powered legal team. Blocking those communities until they have a legal opinion just seems like good sense to me.
The hexbear thing - they're evangelical totalitarians politically. They believe what they believe and everything they talk about revolves around that and they need you to hear it, again and again and again. It's just mentally exhausting dealing with them, especially when a large part of their freely admitted m.o. is brigading/dog-piling.
Being fedded with lemmynsfw didn't bother me, I hardly ever saw anything from it as I rarely feel the need to go on 'All'. I understand there were some anime jailbait issues? That's probably a pretty good reason to defed from an instance.
So, and this is admittedly all from my perspective, I haven't seen any overbearing uses of defedding.
And I think people need to realise defedding is not like banning. On reddit if a sub got banned it was gone. On Lemmy if one instance defeds from another, the other instance is still there. You still have the choice to view it.
lemmynsfw didn’t bother me, I hardly ever saw anything from it as I rarely feel the need to go on ‘All’. I understand there were some anime jailbait issues?
Were? Ok, maybe I’m old but I’m freaked out by how young some of the people look on nsfw communities and have stopped subscribing. Reddit had people posting that didn’t make me feel gross
The instance isn't yours. It doesn't belong to the users. You are graced with being allowed to use it. The owner of the instance is the one that gets into legal trouble because you want to post your loli furry pictures to the world. If I ran my own instance I would be restricting content as well. And federating with an instance that hosts that shit forces them to also host that content.
I get the feeling their argument wasn't 100% over illegal content (but I do agree - you shouldn't expect a bunch of individuals to try to fight potential legality issues, I certainly don't), part of it may have been in regards to all of the other reasons defederation occurs. Such as LW removing piracy communities for legal reasons, as opposed to Beehaw defederating from LW/SHIJW over the open registration nature of those instances.
Thankfully my instance is mine, so I get to make those decisions for myself. Unfortunately I'm not surprised though that there seems to be a bit of a split between people who evangelized Lemmy as the "where Reddit can't decide to block content" (which I saw a lot of, during the sub protests) and then on the outside that's exactly how it looks.
Telling people to host their own instance, or to have multiple accounts on multiple instances is probably the equivalent of the same thing being discussed here as the Linux evangelists who go "Well just use FreeCAD" (to use an example from further above) when they say they use Windows because they're involved in professional CAD work.
There's a lot of nuances between Lemmy, Federation, and The Fediverse as a whole that gets left out when people introduce others to it and I've seen a lot of cases where that causes precisely this issue - it's sold as a one size fits all solution when that couldn't be further from the truth.
I have no stance (I'm not here to tell other admins how to run their instances) on the subject of the matter in this comment chain, but that's how I see it when I try to "play devil's advocate" and look at it from different lenses.
Illegal stuff? Sure block it, I totally respect the need to CYA.
Blocking lemmit.online 'cause it's a bot, which yields low content and pollutes "All"? Block lemmynsfw, cause of NSFW content? ... well, as an adult I'd prefer I could make that choice for myself and have it governed by my own tolerances.
Some of them keep talking about their Ex (Reddit).
Super opinionated people who are completely blind to the thing they're discussings shortfalls.
See: anything to do with Linux.
It literally feels like a blast from the past. I remember being on forums in the 90s and early 2000s hearing all this Linux evangelism. Then I say "the second a user has to touch a command line, they're out" and everyone acts like this isn't a reasonable take.
Thankfully though, Linux has evolved and ChromeOS and Android have shown how lower needs users and limited platforms like mobile can use Linux and not have to deal with the complexity of old-school Linux.
You have NO IDEA what you're talking about
/s
I daily Linux and have not had any issues other than not being able to run Affinity Photo
My games like Stray and Geometry Dash run fine under Proton though
And I really like KDE Connect. I'm on XFCE but it works fine
Lots more pro CCP shills on here. Smh.
not the users, but there isn't really enough discussion on here it seems like, just general memes. i like memes and shitposting but a man can't live on shitposting alone
Try hackernews for meaningful conversations.
Obsession with Reddit, Linux, being communists. Everyone here is a former reddit mod/addict, I'm not surprised. This place is somehow worse than reddit in a different way.
So I couldn’t help myself, and looked at a bit of your posting history.
Gotta say, you seem a bit angsty. If you have opinions different from what’s mainstream here (though I’m not sure arguments about Linux are really mainstream, even here), that’s all well and good, and a decent enough reason to not enjoy your time here.
But your engagement seems somewhat anger driven, and that seems to colour your challenges here, where feeling like you’re the lone voice of wisdom seems to fuel your angst.
You got to it before I did. This whole thread is your typical asking a question as way to sound off about something else in the comments. Dude is grumpy and needs people to see.
OP has a hidden agenda and he’s trying to stoke flames with his question and comments
Snooping post history is a red flag, mam. Pretty low, and not a Reddit feature I'm particularly keen on retaining.
So what if I spend all my time posting pornographic images of King Richard the third? Not really relevant to the argument at hand, is it?
The lack of them, I guess?
There are lots of communities, but many of them are absolutely dead. My fav subs were BJJ, Hajime No Ippo, Squared Circle, and CS Career Questions. None of them are active here.
Extremism - Reddit as its share but also has millions of "normies" to balance things out. Here there doesn't seem to be any moderates.
The platform itself is dysfunctional and will prevent any real growth in average users.
Just TOO many Linux fanboys/martyrs, it is a good OS but damn stop trying to go full on religion with it.
There are so many tankies here. CCP propaganda and Stalin apologetics everywhere.
As much as I'm skeptical about the unchecked power of corporations, I feel like Lemmy tech enthusiasts are completely hostile to the more mainstream kind of enthusiasm that actually like a well designed product.
Like, you can whine about the theoretical problems of a centralized service all you want, but if you're not syncing with OneDrive (or an alternative, though those are kinda worse) on your Windows computer you're literally sabotaging yourself. I could go on about other examples, but I'll limit myself.
I don't care if you think Linux is better. For the average person, Linux is incomprehensible. Now don't get me wrong, I like Linux too! I use Linux for my servers, and it's a great option to have. But the ideologues who push it to everyone are infuriatingly dumb, and serve only to push people out of the tech community.
As a whole, this site has too many ideologues, and not enough nuance. It's like the whole "Reddit atheist" phenomenon but worse: people here are unquestionably critical to an absurd degree, and refuse to accept that there may be alternative viewpoints on what they're saying.
And I'm not fond of capitalism either. I just think that the constant negativity is draining.
The political opinions of the average Lemmy user are a lot more radical and the users themselves come off as a lot more arrogant than the average Reddit user.
Which is honestly shocking to me because I thought Redditors were bad. I block any community that is about politics or users that try to inject politics where it isn't pertinent.
People complaining about the promotion of FOSS on a FOSS powered site. Lemmy amd Mastodon are a golden opportunity to get people onboard with FOSS, no shit they're going to evangelize it. Not to mention the early adopters were obviously FOSS devs.
So many damn Linux memes and supremacy posting.
On a more real note though, a bunch of the smaller communities I was part of on reddit, and nearly every specific gaming sub I was in aren't here, or at least aren't anywhere near as active.
Arguing about which instance is best / instance superiority / complaining about users from _______ instance.
My friends, we are on a collective group of web pages being hosted an run by individuals as a fucking hobby. Shut. Up.
To the admins, thank you.
Yeah, when the call went out for some help, I really wanted to join the collective, but I just can’t commit the time predictably
The most annoying thing is hexbear and that everything needs to be political.
Especially when it's that cringe combination of both
People here are way to eager to get into political arguments out of nowhere, usually in bad faith. The front-page is covered with doomscrolling content, being here too long makes me miserable and hopeless. The rest of the content is mostly tech stuff, which can only be interesting for so long.
What I miss from Reddit, is the variety of diverse communities, people having fun and polite conversations, a sense of humor, and a lot of happy content or stuff that's interesting but not limited to tech.
At this point, I feel like the technology is much better and the user base much larger, but the user group is so extremely specific.
I wish people from all political spectrums would engage in a civil conversation here and not reduce it to mockery and attacking. What's the point of discussion if no one leaves with something new to think?
There was a period about a month ago where things were surprisingly thoughtful and well-considered for the most part. Then another wave of probably younger redditors came in and they brought with them all of the reactionary meme-ish way of talking. You can't make people not be how they are, but I was sad to see all of that awesomeness diluted.
But who knows, maybe given enough time, Lemmy and the fediverse will make an impact on these people and they'll see that it's better to live in a society (albeit a digital one) where people make an effort to listen and to respond thoughtfully as opposed to getting something out just to get it out.
They aren't sports fans. One of the things I do most often on Reddit is participate in various gamethreads in /r/nfl, /r/cfb, /r/hockey, /r/baseball, etc etc etc. There are gamethreads on Lemmy, mostly on the fanaticus.social instance. I'm the only one I've seen post in them, except for bots.
I know its here, because I'm constantly blocking new sports communities that pop up in All.
The privacy crowd that is rather large on Lemmy reminds me too much of a stereotypical paranoid conspiracy theorist, pushing for things solely for their privacy features, even if everything else about the product is garbage. 9 times out of 10, even the people advocating for certain privacy features have absolutely no need of them, and they get overly upset when certain criminal groups take advantage of these privacy tools for the exact same reasons they advocate to use them; they're just doing very questionable things to necessitate the extreme privacy.
About users? Too wholesome. I feel like I need to be on my best behavior
About Lemmy?
— Why do I need to login so frequently?
— Why do my filters keep resetting?
— But most of all, lemmy doesn’t yet have the volume to keep some of the more specialized communities active
— and I wish we could get r/AskHistorians to rebuild here ?
— and how the eff do you do markup here?
— and why does the context button only work half the time?
— and how do I see my comments, especially when the context button isn’t working and I’m trying to figure out what someone replied to me about
Most of those things are due to growing pains. And some of them might even be specific to your instance.
Because I'm definatly not experiencing all of those issues from my instance.
Nothing so far. Sure, it's smaller and there are growing pains here and there, but the folk pretty nice here. Think I'll stay for a while...
I am glad you are having a positive experience. I have seen 2 comments saying that. I am having a much different experience.
I love you and hope you have a nice day
Maybe it is because of the kinds of communities you visit and the types of conversations you participate in. Try something more neutral or wholesome and you’ll find a completely different side of Lemmy.
If you show hints of anger, hatred, disdain or disrespect in your interactions, people are going to reflect some of it back at you. Maybe that’s why you’re experiencing negative feelings here.
It is funny how you saying you have had some bad experiences on Lemmy is enough to get downvoted.
Almost like you aren't allowed to have a different opinion than the zeitgeist.
I’m sorry to hear that op. I hope you’ll give this platform another chance. I’m sure a lot more positivity will come your way pretty soon.
It's been, what,two months?
Are we seriously trying to create an arbitrary divide and pick fights already?
Reddit tier memes being spammed around everywhere, I have so many meme subreddits blocked among other stuff
That some people tend to ask boring and repetitive question about Lemmy vs Reddit.
I have a sense that the islands (instances) are concentrating/amplifying more extreme views echo chamber style. I'm sure it was there on reddit too... but I feel like I am exposed to more far right and far left viewpoints that are presented in a toxic/offensive manner on lemmy. It happened occasionally on Reddit but it is daily on lemmy. I am browsing All to find new content and not really liking what I find.
I haven't seen much far right stuff here, but I see toxic far left rhetoric all the time on Lemmy and it's honestly extremely off-putting even as someone who's solidly left of center.
Yeah, I think it is a consequence of the nature of federation like you said (not saying federation is bad, of course)
At Reddit, everyone had to coexist and conform to the overarching group of admins and site-wide policies, whereas anyone on Lemmy, should they find the admins of an instance too restrictive, can just make a new instance that allows for whatever extreme they desire.
Thankfully, a lot of the major instances like lemmy.world seem to be closer to the middle- still biased one way or another, but not nearly to the extremes of Lemmygrad or Exploding Heads
I believe you but my experience on Reddit was way worse when it came to politics.
I am browsing All to find new content and not really liking what I find.
Don't, or block the instances that allow that kind of content, or pick an instance that doesn't federated with them.
This is freedom, not "the world as told by Reddit".
Most annoying for me is calling for or defederating from instances which have diverse points of view. This is inclusivity hypocrisy. Ignore or block what you don't want to hear. Don't speak for me. You may have supporters that think the way you do, but there are multitudes who think differently. It's the antithesis of equity to silence different opinions, no matter how offensive they are to you and/or to those who think like you. Simply block them so you do not have to endure differing, offensive speech [even if you consider it "hate" speech]. What I hate, others may adore. So just block it.
Bot accounts archiving/copying posts from Reddit. If I wanted to see them I’d go to Reddit. Some of these bot accounts I can’t even block because of a bug, maybe do to sheer amount of posts from these accounts.
block the user that post on lemmit.online and the archiving posts will be gone.
I mean, this is kinda just an internet problem in general, but it's just a prevalent here on Lemmy as anywhere else, so it does count as something annoying Lemmy users doing. And that's just general aggression
It seems like saying anything is a great way to get someone downright furious with you. Again, that happens everywhere, I just wish there was less of it on Lemmy. I think FOSS topics are a great example. Just in this thread alone you can see people already getting just... really worked up on both sides of the FOSS subject.
People get really aggressive about what qualifies as a good meme, ffs. And there also just a general culture online (it's died down recently, I think? It was really bad starting in 2016, imo) of humorous aggression, where reacting in really aggressive ways just as a joke is really common, which leads to misunderstandings and causes people to get actually mad if they aren't in the loop of the joke in the first place.
On a bright note however, I have noticed there's a lot less bigotry being treated as acceptable on here. Transphobic memes and stuff of that nature would show up in random communities on reddit a lot more than should ever be acceptable, and they would occasionally (not always) get more support in the comments than they should. Here on Lemmy it seems folks are a lot more proactive in shutting that stuff down before those types get a foothold here. Hopefully it stays that way.
For me it's been the people trying to turn this into a carbon copy of their Reddit experience. I get the desire to fill the void after leaving Reddit, but this is a different place with a different group of people and a different social dynamic. We don't need copies of the subreddits we had on Reddit. We don't need separate communities for every type of meme or joke like we had over there (yet). Creating niche communities is a little premature when we don't even have the larger ones reading critical mass yet.
And to a much lesser degree, I would like to stop seeing people say "sublemmy." But at least I understand how we got there. "Community" is such a generic term, it's easy to not realize that's what they're called.
I've noticed that too. The compartmentalized nature of Reddit only exists becuase of the size of the communities. I've seen lot of people copying subreddits and also filling them with links to the top posts on that subreddit, meanwhile they are getting no comments or engagement. Lemmy should not act as a mirror hosting website for Reddit.
Their annoyance with Reddit users. "Quit trying to Reddit my Lemmy!"
Blithely continuing the blatant reposting of the same old submissions, especially the same two dozen years-old Twitter screencaps. Lemmy doesn't even track user karma, and it's still way too small to bother selling accounts for astroturfing! You don't actually have to karma-whore here!
Lemmy doesn’t even track user karma
Well it does, it just isn't shown anywhere.
That's a honest masturbation to internet points, without any impure motives. Gotta respect that.
I never understood the point of "user karma" on Reddit, it didn't change anything other than some subreddits automatically banning users who haven't participated in "less elitist" subreddits before.
Pretty much of the apps show karma, which is unfortunate.
I did not switch from Reddit, but Lemmy really amplifies any niches that are on here to the point of extremism. It also mostly consists of nerds. Would love to see more diverse and open crowd on here.
Yeah, people need to post relevant content in order to have some relevant feed. Also, the defederation from hexbear and Lemmy.grad has helped a lot on the pro china/Russia discourse.
The constant obsession with R. Get the fuck over it and move on, OP
I like the people on lemmy. Just wish I could speak German in order to understand the 15% of content that's in German.
You can select languages in your profile to hide content in languages you don’t speak
But there's something fascinating about seeing memes I can't understand.
Some apps have a translate option.
Seriously. I was looking for cannabis communities and the one with the most activity is all German.
There is barely a difference in content/comments from Reddit and we act like we are so much better than Redditors
Elitism. People who act entitled to Lemmy attracting whatever crowd they like and not attracting the people they didn't like from Reddit.
Not sure if this is a planned feature, but not being able to block instances. I can do that on Mastodon so I expected to be able to do it here as well. Outside of the usual extreme cases where defederation makes sense, that would solve a lot of "lemmy.deez user said this! why doesn't lemmy.nuts defederate from them?" bullshit. Of course there's always the option of changing instance but you're never gonna agree 100% with the owner's choices when it's something you should be able to have control over.
There's no chihuahua sub where we all post numerous daily pictures of our weird little dogs then tell each other in droves how absolutely lovely they are.
The things that annoy me about some Lemmy users are the same things that annoyed me about some Reddit users (lots of frequently upvoted meme subs that don't work for me, posting ragebait, political compass subs, etc) and I'm dealing with them the exact same way I dealt with them at Reddit throughout 10 years: block and move on. The best thing about this type of forum is that you can heavily personalize your feed by filtering/blocking/muting and you'll still have some reasonably good quality content (which includes both your niches and the potential to discover either general or specific stuff you'll like) thanks to the upvote system.
The FOSS crowd is incredibly cringey and annoying
Lemmings believe they are the good ones.
Not enough of them to build fun and meaningful conversations
These guys under obvious joke meme posts.
I remember I said "literally 1984" and a bunch of people just did not understand the joke and proceeded to write multi paragraph replies detailing why I'm wrong and that "you obviously never read the book"
Should have said "illiterately 1984"... *badum-tss*
that's 4chan shit - people are definitely here using "reaction images" which is a 4chan thing from like fucking 2012
do we count the shitty x-post bots with 1 upvote and 0 comments spamming otherwise dead communities
There is basically a single bot doing that, for the express purpose of doing that. Block the bot, problem solved.
People thinking the Reddit community is so much worse than Lemmy, like they didn't just come from there themselves and used to be part of it.
Probably the fact that people here seem to bond over the mutual hatred of outgroups/people rather than over the interest in similar things.
The quite heavy left bias shows also.
It's just so dry on here. So far I check in every so often just to see what's up but you can never shake the fact that Reddit has the reach and the history. Sadly I still suffer the Reddit mobile experience here and there, but I mostly just use other apps now. Lemmy just isn't close yet and the whole decentralized thing is beyond confusing for new users, I hate how many accounts I need to create.
Plus the delay to the content is huge, it's like 2 days behind the freshest news articles and discussions and stuff, and the meme content is super dated
You only need to create one account though, maybe two for backup. Federation means you can sub and post to communities on other instances.
Theoretically, yes the intention of the design is to only need to create one account on one server though there are reasons why you'll end up needing to create more than one, such as defederation, Community banning, and also, what I found is much more common than the two, problems with federating (some servers have slow sync or fail to sync posts and comments properly).
So yes federation comes with the intention of not needing to create more than one account, but it doesn't really work out like that in practice.
People still make AcHUalLY comments here. That crap is annoying.
Same redditors with toxic echochamber you are trying to avoid you find them here too. They think their political identity is all that matters.
They are all so nice that I feel I have to be nice too.
Oh, no. I have had a much different experience. I think Lemmy users are just different kinds of assholes and don't realize it.
I am looking at you lemmy user that thinks people should just start killing people to settle the score.
Downvote from me. This whole question and thread seems clearly to be about you processing some very particular encounters, and, frankly, it doesn’t seem to be proceeding in a particularly healthy fashion.
If you wanted to discuss a problematic culture here, that’s cool, provide links if examples and a breakdown and a thesis as to what’s going on … ie actual content … and we can discuss and read. A question with a hidden agenda and unspecific angsty critiques in the comments … isn’t valuable, for neither us nor you.
Report them and move on to talking to the rest of us lovely folks
Time to kill this guy, we have a score to settle with this Lemmy hater.
Too many reddit users have muddied the waters.
On first checking things out, I loved how the nasty responses common in reddit threads was very rare here. Arguments here are commonly well thought out and give the benefit of the doubt. As more redditers switch over, they're bringing the vitriol with them.
Also posting article links from Reddit. I prefer when the poster writes their own synopsis of what the article is about and why it's important. Links from Reddit tend to just repost the click bait garbage from over there.
I really like lemmy. A lot of people with similar interests as me here.
Seeing a lot of complaints about controversial communities, but I for one actually like them. I like the entertainment value of the drama, arguments, and trolling.
I am sick of people removed about these instances. If you don't like their content then join an instance that is defederated from them. It's that simple.
That they haven't convinced the rest of the useful Reddit users to move across (and create/populate the equivalent /c/ I (used to) frequent for help and advice)! 😜
It's annoying how most Lemmy users strut around like they have flavorful, pristine cocks and/or meaty, robust vulvas. Stop being so constructive and fight me.
This place is full of straight up brainwashed communists. I guess the whole free and decentralized thing kind of lends itself towards that crowd, but these people are fucking insane.
Same as reddit, really: sealioning bigots.
The Tankies, The Misogynists, The Nazis. Techbro/Gamer moments.
Cryprocultists are still around.
There are 11 kinds of people: those who understand crypto, those who don't, and those why are there to make a buck like PayPal.
Missing communities is my biggest complaint. There was r/teenagersbuthot which was actually an awesome welcoming community.
Wow..this post got more air time than news items that matter 😂
There aren't enough of them. I like having long comment threads to read with a feisty dialogue. It's not as fun when every post has 12 replies.
Generalizing based on others' preferred link aggregator.
I'm trying to fill that niche
I just got here so I'm not sure yet
Their obsession with tankies. I get they were probably over represented but I'm telling you, they ain't it.
For me it's the ability to directly upload videos and play them in app. Let me know if I'm just missing something but that is the thing really holding me back from wanting to post my bouldering(rock climbing) clips.
Honestly my problem is not with limit users, as all in all they are far superior to Reddit users, but with the lack of specific content. I mean you have communities for gaming, but you don't have communities for specific games. I miss being able to have in-depth conversations about sonic, Five Nights at freddy's, and Mortal Kombat
I haven't been annoyed very much so far
I don't know if it's the users themselves or just the fact it's a smaller community as a whole, but I see way, way more drama posts about random things going on in niche parts of Lemmy than I ever did on Reddit. And unlike those on Reddit, most of these posts on Lemmy amount to nothing but the OP overreacting or reaching for the sake of being a victim. I can only think of one bit of drama that was legit, and that was the Ten Forward/Risa thing.
And it's not more or less annoying than Reddit, it's basically the same thing as the nazis but with a different flavor: the tankies. It's just... Weird. I'd never encountered that shit before.
Theres a lot more gatekeeping here than Id like and the amount Id like is zero.
The bot spam is quite a bit worse, even when turning bots off
There's very little difference.
what is the most annoying thing you have seen about Lemmy users?
That far too many can't stop talking about reddit...
They're either far-right/"both sides," or tankies defending China when no one even mentioned it.
The word "tankie". Thanks to Sync for Lemmy, I'm going to set a keyword filter for it right now.
The number of reddit users.
Nothing. I also think so far people here are smarter, repost less and are less toxic. But this will unavoidably change once Lemmy got bigger. We're just barely past "knowing users by name" stage. Too many people to bother but not enough to get lost in the noise yet. Quite comfortable.
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Needs way more Marxists.
Political extremists are about same as Reddit. If you're Left enough for them. They will miss you up.
All (but one) of the we need to defederate from [name of instance here] posts. I seen don't have proof (links or screenshots) to prove they're not lying. Nothing but trust me, bro.
All lgbtq all cat lovers
The sheer number of FOSSholes.
Edit: seems like I struck nerve. To be clear, I'm not talking about the FOSS enthusiasts or enjoyers, they are A-OK. I'm talking about the FOSS fanatics who derive joy from trashing everyone else's choice of software and look for every opportunity to push their doctrine. They are the FOSSholes.
Have you ever heard of our lord and saviour Linux?
You surely mean GNU/Linux.
(written from Android)
Haven't heard this one before, i'll be stealing that word thanks 🤣👍
