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Y—…you guys think Israel being an apartheid state is less than 8 years old?
That's not what this is saying, no.
My point is, you think this Israel situation hasn’t been on the ballot our entire lives? Because it always has been. Things have gotten worse, sure. But the US has been supporting Israel’s abuse of the Palestinian people, with our votes, since we’ve had the chance to vote. This isn’t new. It’s always been this situation, it’s just changed back and forth between bad and worse.
What? This was never partisan. It's the West's parking lot for bombs next to nuclear Iran. When TF was a presidential candidate running on defunding Israel? Nobody ever cared about Palestinians here. And if not for foreign troll farms sparking conflict, they still wouldn't. Show me one protester who can point to another genocide on a world map right now.
…how are you guys not getting that that is my exact point? If this election it’s on the ballot, it’s always been on the ballot. Everyone youve ever voted into office has had their hands in the Israel shit bucket. Our support is not new. What they’re doing the Palestinians is not new. You guys just weren’t paying attention to it before. The tweet implies 8 years ago we didn’t have these problems…but we did. Because everyone you’ve ever voted into office has blood on their hands. The choice is no different this election than it was 8, 12, 16, 24 etc years ago. The only new addition is the overt fascist.
Perhaps in some primaries you had the odd candidate here and there who opposed continued weapons sales to Israel, but the presidential election has absolutely not had it 'on the the ballot' because that would imply you had one candidate who had a significantly different stance on the issue to the other.
…by that logic, it’s not on the ballot this time either.
Correct.
Indeed
Wait what tricked me into saying that. Absolutely not indeed, I firmly believe that whatever democrat hand were to lie on the tiller, you'd have a policy that at least had the goal of minimising the loss of Palestinian life, even if that goal proved too difficult to negotiate well. I do not believe the same of Trump - I think his callous disregard for everyone other than himself is absolutely evident. So I think if that is an issue to you and you agree with my base truths, then I think it is on the ballot.
Israel is an apartheid state? How?