What doesn't say the orbit of the planet or its angle to the Sun can't make the pendulum swing the other way?
I fine w/ going green, I wish we had more light rail in the US. It was nice when I worked in DC and got to read a book on the way into work. I was a hell of a lot more physically active.
The orbit of the planet or the angle of the sun have nothing to do with it. The billions of tons of carbon dioxide and methane we pump into the atmosphere does.
Or do you think that has no effect? If so, I'd love you to explain to me about the chemical neutrality of CO2 and methane.
Temperature was going up gradually until the industrial revolution. Now it's going up drastically. What changed is the amount of CO2 and methane we're putting into the atmosphere.
Again, if you don't agree, please explain how they are chemically neutral.
So you admit that there outside factors that determine the temperature of the planet. Ok we are getting somewhere, and again I will reiterate I would like us to knock off pollution if we can do it sanely.
But what if the changes (outside man made) are exponential? As the the orbit changes or the tilt changes it goes up in orders of magnitude. Is this not possible? I work w/ spacecraft and orbits aren't a constant. All matter/mass/celestial bodies in the solar system have gravitational influence and changes orbits.
Methane and CO2 are naturally formed compounds and like any compound in the atmosphere they have an effect. I was talking out other outside forces that could be accelerating these changes.
If they have an effect and we're pumping tons of it into the atmosphere in a NOT natural way, then it sounds like that effect would be magnified greatly.
What effect do you think CO2 and methane have on our atmosphere?
Again you are going off point, I posted could there be other factors? We got out of an ice age w/o human involvement as the Earth warmed, could there not be an exponential heating of the Earth that has nothing to do w/ co2/methane levels? Maybe this is the cycle of our planet.
Nothing to do with it? Ok, then again, what effect does putting a lot of extra methane and CO2 have chemically on the atmosphere? What is the resulting reaction? Unless, again, they are chemically neutral.
So you are saying that there is not any possible way there are outside forces that could be part of the problem? Solar flares disrupt communications, the Earth doesn't have a perfect orbit, we know the Earth tilts in alignment to the Sun (seasons) and the magnetic poles have flipped a few time. We also know when massive event happen like plate tectonic shifts and volcano mass ejections can make the earth wobble. But naw they couldn't be a factor, we just have one answer...