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You're making no sense. How is giving everyone the financial help to keep them clothed, housed, fed, etc. without needing to work for it not going to fix anything as long as you prevent price gouging?
Ok, let me recontextualize here. "if we can terraform mars, why wouldn't we migrate because of climate change on earth?" In that scenario, why wouldn't we fix our climate?
If we have the power to regulate pricing, why would we need UBI?
It's socialism with extra steps. You can just do regular socialism, you don't need to enshitify socialism with capitalism. You really don't.
If we have the power to regulate pricing, why would we need UBI?
Because no matter how low priced something is, someone who has no job still can't afford it.
So, provide the necessary things. Provide housing, medical care, and clothing to anyone that wants it, doing so will probably be necessary for price controls anyway. I'm not saying those things should be unobtainable. I'm saying UBI is a dumb way to go about providing them.
So all food should be free? Or should poor people only be allowed to have certain foods for free but rich people can have anything they want to eat?
I think basic needs should be met, and if you want something better than that you'd need to pay for it.
Ok, which foods should people with no money not be allowed to have?
Anything that is outside of basic needs? I thought that was fairly obvious. You need a certain number of calories each day, and those should come with decent nutrients. Outside of that there's literally no reason to say because we can't even get that right yet.
Fix the actual problems, don't just slap a stupid band-aid over the problem and pat yourself on the back.
Buddy you're waisting a lot of energy debating someone who already mostly agrees with you.
So your UBI-free solution is actually worse than the food stamps program?
I don't know that you do agree with me if you think rich people deserve better food than poor people.
Are you being obtuse on purpose?
Obtuse?
I asked you what sort of foods they should have. You said only their basic needs should be met in terms of food.
Me:
Ok, which foods should people with no money not be allowed to have?
You:
Anything that is outside of basic needs?
Again, the current food stamps program allows impoverished people to buy any food they want to buy as long as they have enough in their EBT account.
Your solution would make a two-tiered system where some people can only get very basic survival food and others can get any food they want. That is worse than now.
So in what way am I being obtuse? You are saying rich people deserve better food than poor people.