That wedge shape may not be as aerodynamic as Elon Musk hoped
More terrible range estimates incoming.
Jalopnik is mostly just quoting stuff from another article that was quoting forum posts. So its basically hearsay at this point. Still, its further evidence that Cybertruck's range is utter crap (and these original posts seem legitimate, as they originate from pro-Tesla sites).
Not necessarily. There may be a software update down the line that improves it, which Tesla has done before. I think that update only added about 5% though so it doesn't exactly look good.
Right. as time goes on, the lithium ion battery capacity will continue to degrade until it's just like that crappy laptop in the closet that only runs if it's plugged in. Batteries have a limited number of times they can be recharged. Only way to fix it is to either rebuild the battery, or replace the battery. Either is expensive, but not sure if it's cheaper than the cost of charging and replacing versus gas for the same time period. Remember, you can't charge your car for free. You either pay a higher electric bill, or pay a fee at the supercharger station. Lower end is about 25 bucks to charge up to full from 0 at a super charger. Compared to the last time I gassed up my Yaris, I paid 27 bucks, and I get about 250 miles from that full tank. Not sure if a tesla actually beats that or not. Doesn't sound like the Cybertruck does though.
Anecdotally, 0-80% at a supercharger on my M3 costs about $15, but I live in an area with relatively cheap power. It's also much less expensive (about 50% less) if you charge at home.
I have a hunch that it's driving the tri-motor configuration incorrectly, and I wonder if it's getting less horsepower as well.
I have like 40,000 karma and thousands of posts over months, but sure I’m a Tesla bot account who was waiting for this moment to say Tesla is shit. You got me.
This post was reported, so I'll talk about it here.
I recognize that you've been called a bot, and therefore you feel the need to "hit back". That's fine. But note that this discussion is getting too heated now and we need to take a step back and have a breather.
Further discussion in this topic will be more tightly moderated.
@[email protected]: Please don't call other users bots unnecessarily. I think we're all in agreement with the facts here. Tesla EVs can theoretically change their range with software updates, but such changes remain small and relatively unsubstantial (~5% range). Tempers have gotten testy here somehow. In my experience, its important for me to nuke discussions from orbit to stop them at this point. Please do not continue upon this insulting-path. I'm deleting many replies in this topic now to help calm things down.
There's some kind of misunderstanding between you and @eltimablo. I've removed both of your posts / insult-fest from below. Please be nicer.
As far as I can tell, everyone agrees that Tesla regularly lies about range estimates. But also EV firmware updates can change ranges (though only through small amounts: like 5% due to various software optimizations and the like). I think the disagreement between the two of you was revolving on how much this matters. But the bulk of both of your points seemed to be agreed upon, so I'm confused why the discussion got out of hand.
How does any of this relate to "software updates can improve EV range" in any way whatsoever? In no way have I suggested that Tesla didn't lie about their ranges.
As a moderator: I'm cutting off the discussion from here. Below are a bunch of stupid insults between the two users above. I get that tempers can get heated at times, but that doesn't mean the insult-stream deserves to stay unremoved.