Discussion thread - August 2023
Discussion thread - August 2023
Hello liberals - we have new mods! @CoffeeAddict and I (@theinspectorst) have taken over as mods of this magazine after the unfortunate disappearance of our previous mod - we tried quite hard to locate the previous mod but they hadn't been active in over a month and we had no way to reach them.
We're going to get to work on sorting out this magazine - e.g. filling out the placeholders in the sidebar. We thought we'd post a regular pinned monthly discussion thread for the time being but if the mag keeps growing then we can move it more frequent.
In the meantime - discuss away!
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@Neoliberal I was looking into https://kbin.social/m/kbinMeta/t/135413/YSK-that-Kbin-can-subscribe-not-only-to-magazines-and today and I was wondering if anyone here has been able to try https://kbin.social/d/mastodo.neoliber.al to see if it will pull in the Neoliberal Masto instance's kbin interaction feed? I'm thinking as I'm not a kbin.social user its not kicking off a subscribe step and never storing the domain in its domain list even though several users here have posted to there. https://kbin.social/d/mastodon.social gives what I would expect, but for our server.
I get a 404 error for https://kbin.social/d/mastodo.neoliber.al, but https://kbin.social/d/mastodon.social seems to work.
The way it appears from this end is that mastodon.social domain is showing threads where a kbin user has posted a link to a Mastodon post, which are all the ones that are showing up, whereas perhaps no-one on kbin has posted a mastodo.neoliber.al link. So it's not really subscribing to the instance in the same way you can subscribe to a Threadiverse instance, it's acting more like a filter for Mastodon posts that were then posted as links on kbin.
@theinspectorst @CoffeeAddict that makes sense and probably is why lemmy.world is showing only memes and crossposts. Thanks for checking!
Assuming I understand correctly, we would need to post a mastodo.neoliber.al link to kbin for content to show up?
Yes, but I think only that tweet (post? mast?) would show up. If we wanted to subscribe to mastodo.neoliber.al more generally then someone would have to repost every piece of content from there into kbin.social.
@theinspectorst @CoffeeAddict users that want to post to the magazine microblog from masto can give the hashtag (if I recall correctly), which I think is fine. I think a really nice bot for the integration would be a bot that follows and boosts the NL Kbin's thread posts in the masto server (to hack around Masto not understanding groups).
More Mastodon users using the hashtag to post to the microblog would be a great thing. So far we've not really paid attention to the microblog as it tends to get cluttered by crÃtics of neoliberalism using the hashtag (I think often those of the 'I don't know exactly what neoliberalism is so I'm going to use the phrase as a generic bogeymen for things I don't like' variety...)
A bot to boost our content on Mastodon would seem like a good thing, although now I'm wondering - do kbin boosts federate to Mastodon automatically?
@theinspectorst I think so, obviously only to servers that host someone following the person boosting the post.
I think this can work by listening to the magazine's thread RSS feed (or pinging the API) then using the masto api to have a bot user boost that post.
@OtherwiseJunk - since you've written a Masto bot for our instance before, does that make sense? Would you be open to adding it (or taking a PR to add it) to the Deep State Bot scripts or do you think this would be better in a separate bot?
@Neblib seems reasonable on the face of it.
I am 90% sure I put Deepstate up on GitHub, I'll grab the link, but honestly the api is fairly straightforward, only thing that would change is instead of listening to the masto api messages, evaluating them, and optionally replying you'd just be listening to whatever kbin provides and posting to the mastoapi
One thing you might need to keep in mind is the kbin API is not finished. I am not sure if you will need it to post mastodon to the kbin microblog.
I think @ernest is working on finishing up the API but I have no idea when it will be ready and he has a lot on his plate lol.
Ah, I see. That is not very efficient lol.
Hmmm let me try and see what happens when I post to https://kbin.social/d/mastodo.neoliber.al
EDIT:
I get a 404 error for https://kbin.social/d/mastodo.neoliber.al.
https://kbin.social/d/mastodon.social seems to be federating.
I get a 404 for https://kbin.social/d/mastodo.neoliber.al but https://kbin.social/d/mastodon.social seems to federate.
See my comment above - I think for Mastodon instances it's not so much federating as filtering examples of where links to that instance were reposted here.