Looking for Potential Mods
Looking for Potential Mods
As the title says, I'm looking for some potential mods to help run this community.
If you are interested, are a current mod of the QDL Subreddit, etc., then drop a comment to this post explaining why you believe that you would be a good fit for mod.
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I'm down. I moderate for a few other subs so I have experience with the sort of fediverse jank that mods have to deal with, and I have a LOT of free time at my job so I'm on Lemmy a lot. I'm also transfem / NB so this is a matter that impacts me directly.
Full disclosure: I'm on record saying I disagree with the Lemmy Blahaj Zone admin's mod actions in the other LBZ sub I moderate, but I think in subs like this it's more than appropriate to have extremely low tolerance. So I'll be a much harsher mod than I am in 196.
There you go, you're all set.
Welcome to the Team.
Hello,
Be aware the reports don't federate, so people modding from non local accounts won't get reports.
Edit: don't always federate
Blaze... You were already corrected on that by someone else some time ago and you're a mod too. Reports DO federate but it's just that sometimes they don't. Also try informing users that this will be fixed in the lemmy v1 to let them know it will be fixed. In fact it was already implemented and some other stuff needs work before the full release of v1.
This is literally misinfo.
Short update: another user confirmed that report solving does not federate: https://lemmy.world/comment/15016278
See below, seems like everyone agrees in the end
Just tested reporting a post on lemmy.world using my lemmy.ml account and I got the report on my lemmy.dbzer0.com account:
I can confirm that the report resolve didn't federate when I did it from the lemmy.dbzer0.com account. It also didn't federate on the second test when resolved on lemmy.world account and was still visible on the lemmy.dbzer0.com account.
That's still different from what was originally said and everyone would have benefited if it was just a bit longer and informative of the situation. I for example didn't knew that report resolving is guaranteed to not get federated and thought it's similar to report federation where that just sometimes happen. So I as a mod for months would have learned something new without going back and forth on this topic because of close but inaccurate info. Anyway, everyone came to an agreement so it's all good. Have a good day.
My blanket recommendation is just to use local accounts to mod. Between the intricacies of reports federating, reports resolve federating, etc., "report not federating" seems an acceptable generalization.
So I as a mod for months would have learned something new without going back and forth on this topic because of close but inaccurate info.
To be honest I wasn't sure of the details either, so it's not like I could have provided better. Anyway, this thread is now here so if we ever need to come back to this topic we'll be able to.
Have a good day too.
Edit: see this comment: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/37408959/16616048
that sometimes they don’t.
Indeed.
Below in the comments I quote https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/4701 which was opened in May, and https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/4744 which was closed last week.
Nutomic today
I implemented reports federation recently, in current versions it is not available at all. So you may have to wait until version 1.0, though @MrKaplan mentioned that he plans to backport it to 0.19.x
https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/37507379/16612227
v1 isn't released yet.
The current advice from LW is
Note that, due to a bug in Lemmy, you will not be able to see reports in the community since your account is on a different instance. You could work around it by making a lemmy.world account just for moderating.
https://lemmy.world/post/24616352?scrollToComments=true
How is this misinformation?
If it is, how come that none of the instance admins in that thread corrected me?
https://lemmy.world/post/24576402
Edit: I just tried it again, sent a report from a comment on [email protected] from my Lemmy.zip account. I have a remote account (the one I'm writing this comment with) as a remote mod. I did not get the report.
Thank you very much for the info.
I've already told @[email protected] that this is not the issue, and I've demonstrated to him that he's wrong.
Unfortunately, the federation issue isn't that simple. If it were, I would've submitted another LBZ application a long time ago. I'm unclear what exactly causes the problem, or if it's even one thing causing it...but what I do know is that even if you have a LBZ account, you won't get a complete list of reports because some of them don't federate properly.
SDF was the most reliable place to see a complete list, but they blocked LBZ and kbin today, so that really throws a wrench in things.... Qaz was the one who figured all this out, so when it's closer to morning time in his country I'll have to shoot him a message and find out what the next best place is.
In the meantime, I have an alt on lemm.ee that seems to catch most of what my LW account misses (@[email protected]). I can add it as a mod if you want.
and I’ve demonstrated to him that he’s wrong.
Well...
Report federation used to work. I appointed several mods from other instances back then. The issue seemed to have appeared in May 2024 (https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/4701).
The issue has been closed last week (https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/4744), and the fix still has to be released.
The issue you linked applies to a version of Lemmy that neither LW or LBZ use. Or any instance, as far as I'm aware.
Again, looking at the modlog is all it takes to demonstrate that you're mistaken. We are actively resolving reports on our remote accounts.
This other issue was also opened in May: https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/4744
I don't want to go through the update timelines of LW and LBZ, but on [email protected], LW admins still state that
Note that, due to a bug in Lemmy, you will not be able to see reports in the community since your account is on a different instance. You could work around it by making a lemmy.world account just for moderating.
https://lemmy.world/post/24616352?scrollToComments=true
I had a look at the modlog, it works in this case indeed ( https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/modlog/2942?page=1&actionType=All&modId=115895 ). I am not saying it never works. I am saying that there are known cases where it does not, which is why the LW admins recommend people to use local accounts. Maybe in this case it's because the report was from a LBJ account for a LBJ community?
I also posted about in 19 days ago on [email protected]: https://lemmy.world/post/24576402 . Other mods and admins reported other actions that would not federate. Nobody contradicted the fact that it could be working sometimes.
The consensus recommendation is just to use local accounts while we wait for the fix to be released. It's just easier than to try to figure out what works and what does not, in which conditions, etc.
You don't see any reports from a non-local account.
Be aware the reports don't federate, so people modding from non local accounts won't get reports.
I am not saying it never works.
Maybe not currently, but that is what you have been saying.
Maybe in this case it's because the report was from a LBJ account for a LBJ community?
No.
There are federation issues with reports, but it's not as simple as you've been saying, and having a local account doesn't solve it. There's a reason Qaz has several alts modded at 196 outside of LBZ. He needs them because there are several reports that don't federate with LBZ, LW, or lemm.ee.
You are welcome. Thank you a lot for your posts on Reddit, I try to relay them on [email protected], you definitely make a difference!
