Gaza Is Set To Torpedo Joe Biden's Claim To A Human Rights Legacy
Gaza Is Set To Torpedo Joe Biden's Claim To A Human Rights Legacy
The president promised he would champion values like universal rights and the dignity of every person. Then the Israel-Hamas war began.
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I know y'all Liberals hate ethno-states and all, but good luck setting up a liberal democracy in that region lol.
Israel doesn't particularly care for the Palestinians and that is definitely a problem. But letting the other regional powers (Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Palestine, Syrians) take over would cause a complete slaughter of Israelis and Jewish people immediately. I guarantee it.
Anyone who disagrees with me is hugely ignorant of the history of that region.
What makes this whole situation so problematic is that Genocide is normal in that region. Kurds we're probably going to be wiped out if it weren't for our involvement in Iraq for example.
Based on our best knowledge of the people who live there, Israel is likely the best leaders of that plot of land.
Not Bibi though. Hopefully Israel can get a better minister. But they are the closest to democracy that we are gonna get there.
baby, i'm an anarchist. liberal democracies are breeding grounds for fascism.
And the Saudis are a monarchy. So methinks you don't like that either.
And presumably you don't like Fascism either. So whatever, if you don't got a realistic proposal then I guess you can go yell at clouds or something?
No wait, Anarchist? So you think me acting in my best interests is best? So you think I should take up a job at a weapons manufacturer, then encourage this war to keep happening and then profit from it? And your political slant prevents you from doing anything to stop me from doing that?
what makes you think anarchists would stand by while capitalists profit from war?
Guns, mostly.
What makes you think that the weapon manufacturers would sell anarchists useful weapons if you're against them?
anarchists are renowned for sabotage and creative resistance tactics.
And the FBI is renowned for imprisoning traitors. So talking about this on the open internet is likely a dumbass move if you're actually serious.
Which is why I'm calling your bluff. If you're serious about this, you wouldn't have told me about it.
it's hilarious you're threatening to call the cops because I oppose settler colonialism
Correct me if I'm wrong, but you were just now threatening to sabotage weapon shipments to Israel, were you not?
Or were you just bluffing? But yes, opposing the foreign policy goals of our country through the use of sabotage is a traitorous act and calling the cops on this would be the appropriate thing to do.
As I said. I know you're bluffing. I'm just seeing how far you've thought about this issue. And as expected, you haven't thought it through at all.
let the FBI decide if you are filing a false report
Calm down. I'm not filing anything. I'm simply pointing out that you're a dumbass if you talk like that in public. So its an easy bluff for me to call.
The simple matter is, even just talking about plans to sabotage stuff on a detailed level is literally the crime of conspiracy and 100% in the perview of FBI investigations. (IE: Much like how Donald Trump "only" talked about how they were going to steal votes on Jan 6th, that's enough for the FBI to have nabbed him on conspiracy).
And that's the nature of our world. I have confidence in my worldview, because that's actually how the world works. Yours is just kinda... an empty threat that's full of pretty straightforward misunderstandings.
Like I said: guns. Violence. The use of force. I don't really have much confidence in anarchists actually accomplishing much in our setting or political system (or the political system of Israel for that matter). But in contrast, I have confidence in the current powers that be and their ability to use force. Especially with regards to matters of say.... criminal conspiracy of sabotage.
And anarchists otherwise aren't a very powerful political group or in the mainstream, so yeah... a lot of yelling at clouds.
So whatever, if you don’t got a realistic proposal then I guess you can go yell at clouds or something?
i'm trying to organize against oppression, but, yea, it does feel like yelling at clouds most days.
And the Saudis are a monarchy. So methinks you don’t like that either.
right.
capitalism is not a just hierarchy, either.
And presumably you don’t like Fascism either.
right