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Damn, you really throwing the word Tory around like that
If it walks like a Tory, talks like a Tory, and regurgitates bootstraps rhetoric like a Tory...
Everyone from a poor or working class family understands that poverty isn't something you can graft your way out of. Also, a man described as "96 and a half" and the most fragile among Charlie's grandparents, managed to muster the energy to celebrate his grandson winning a prize and then accompanied him on a half day tour round a local factory. If you think that's sufficient to classify him as work capable, then you've got a bright future conducting disability assessments for the DWP.
Just to preface this, the fuck Grandpa Joe train is meant to be a light-hearted thing, I'm only taking it seriously because other people are refuting it like it's a serious thing. Anyways...
If it walks like a Tory, talks like a Tory, and regurgitates bootstraps rhetoric like a Tory…
Talks like a Tory, really now?
I ain't talking about bootstraps or breaking out of debt, that ain't easy at all. I'm talking about making enough extra money that maybe your family don't have to have cabbage soup every night - a little luxury, not a lot to ask for.
Everyone from a poor or working class family understands that poverty isn’t something you can graft your way out of. Also, a man described as “96 and a half” and the most fragile among Charlie’s grandparents, managed to muster the energy to celebrate his grandson winning a prize and then accompanied him on a half day tour round a local factory. If you think that’s sufficient to classify him as work capable, then you’ve got a bright future conducting disability assessments for the DWP.
I understand that too, as I said I ain't on about that, and I think you've misunderstood me thinking I am.
Again, from the 90 year olds I know, that jig is more energy than I've ever seen displayed from them, especially someone that was supposedly bed-bound.
And if he really is the most fragile, why aren't the others helping out around the house at the very least so Mum can go work, rather than dedicate her life caring for an entire double bed's worth of old people on top of her family living on one person's wage?
And if he really is the most fragile, why aren’t the others helping out around the house at the very least so Mum can go work, rather than dedicate her life caring for an entire double bed’s worth of old people on top of her family living on one person’s wage?
I really don't know, lad. Why don't you dig up Roald and ask why his lighthearted kids book doesn't stand up to your overanalysis? He's not up to much; he's just been grave-ridden for 30 years.
Again, you're missing the point of the joke of hating Grandpa Joe.
Literally everyone making the joke is aware of the fact this is a family friendly film coming from a children's book.
The premise is if you took the situation seriously, Grandpa Joe comes out looking a bit of an asshole.
Why are you even in this thread if you're just gonna shoot the fun down?
I’m not missing the point at all, actually. You may notice I’m not up and down this thread shooting down everyone calling him a coke fingered nonce because that’s comical. What isn’t comical is your particular overanalysis which is outright wrong. A joking comment that he’s a workshy scrounger is a funny over-exaggeration. An analysis of how a 90 year old should be grafting to put food on the table is neither funny or correct.
I'm only taking this as seriously as I am because other people in this particular reply thread are - and then there's you going "iT's A cHiLd'S moViE sO nOnE oF tHiS mAtTeRs" - like let people have their fun man.
You want to prove you missed the joke - look at the meme the OP made, it literally saying Grandpa Joe stayed in bed whole his family were broke.
I'm going to use smaller words so you can keep up: I understand the point of the meme. I understand that people are having fun. I'm having my own fun in poking at the one moron who's coming to a fun thread with actual Tory arguments and getting tilted when he gets called out.
No, a 90 year old should not be forced to work to help their family. No, there isn't a logical argument in favour of it. You're just making Tory arguments, and I'm poking fun at you.
Again, I'm only taking this seriously because I'm having it thrown back seriously....
Joe shouldn't be forced to work to help his family put food on the table - how this family doesn't qualify for some kind of substantial support given the Mum is caring for so many old folks is downright criminal...
But in the reality of their situation, they're stuck living on the Dad's meager wage, with the Mum as a fulltime carer, and a bed of old people in addition to a young child.
It's a shite situation with no real way out, but it could be at least a little bit better with Joe helping out in some way or another - whether that be working himself or even just helping around the house so Mum can go work to help out.
That's the reality of struggle, when your family is struggling just to stay afloat, everyone who can has to help keep the ship going, even those who shouldn't really have to. If you think that's a Tory argument, I really don't know what to tell you
Edit: Also, this is the last I'll be chatting on this thread - so I'll probably read what you write, but don't expect any replies