[Discussion] Some of the most active instances will eventually silo themselves
[Discussion] Some of the most active instances will eventually silo themselves
We should do our absolute best to not become a siloed instance. I predict we will start seeing certain instances be almost inaccessible which will lead to their users migrating to more open instances. It's already becoming clear to me that certain instances will lose users over time if they continue actively segregating their instance from others.
Individual bad actors on other instances is not a good enough reason to defederate. If a troll is bothing someone they can be blocked/banned on sh.itjust.works. I don't expect instance creators to ban all trolls, it's not possible.
Defederation should be reserved for severe cases when another instance shows no interest in moderating. The two instances defederated right now are justified: one condones the denial historical events and actively censors opposition, and the other was condoning heinous illegal activies regarding underage individuals. These are two clear examples of where defederation makes sense.
Defederation should only be used as a last resort.
My previous post continues this sentiment from a couple days ago here: https://sh.itjust.works/post/281126
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I'd argue that Lemmygrad shouldn't be defederated, because, while Lemmygrad itself does not allow for proper discussion, other instances do and Lemmygrad users could be confronted on those instances. 'Could', because due to the defederation, Lemmygrad user comments won't show for users of this instance.
Lemmygrad is something else, on a level with exploding heads. I even try to avoid lemmy.ml, because the devs are tankies, too... but at least there are normal users there, too. The lemmygrad ban is absolutely fine.
I've been working on a nonbiased worldnews. lemmy.ml having the most popular worldnews with their clear bias is worrying.
all news has bias and the fact that you feel you can create a non-biased world news on your own just shows how unqualified you are. To even get close you'd need multiple people with different biases.
You are not some perfect judge of neutrality. Far from.
I plan on utilising mediabiasfactcheck and have it as a disclaimer for every newly created thread, listing the bias and factual reporting on whatever outlet is posted.
For breaking news, only reputable sources with a neutral bias and high factual reporting will be allowed.
Thats fine but your bias will be tested with what you allow to stay up. Will you allow news from sources rated as extreme - will it depend on if its extreme left or extreme right? Will you allow reposts of stories that spark outrage in the cases it sparks outrage you like, but take down stories that spark outrage you dont like? Will you even notice if you're moderating and locking threads that spark your political adversaries outrage, but participating in threads that spark your political allies outrage?
If you're serious about trying to be neutral I suggest you look for someone somewhat ideologically opposed to you to create that balance in the space.
The nice thing about lemmy is that whatever happens, the world news instance that manages to exorcise obvious bs and propaganda the best will hopefully flourish.
Will you allow news from sources rated as extreme - will it depend on if its extreme left or extreme right?
Anything between left-right is fine.
During breaking news, it'll only be centre. No twitter threads or anonymous sources. Only trusted, reliable and reputable news.
Will you allow reposts of stories that spark outrage in the cases it sparks outrage you like, but take down stories that spark outrage you dont like?
I probably won't deal with reposts so long as it's within the current month. If the community becomes active, then I won't allow reposts from old headlines. I'm pretty neutral with any article so long as it's true and fair.
Will you even notice if you’re moderating and locking threads that spark your political adversaries outrage, but participating in threads that spark your political allies outrage?
I won't lock threads unless I become unavailable.
If you’re serious about trying to be neutral I suggest you look for someone somewhat ideologically opposed to you to create that balance in the space.
I'm neutral myself, so I don't really know what the opposition of that is.
again, you're not neutral yourself. You're just failing to identify your own biases.
Im pretty sure you were the guy right wing trolling in fact, because I viewed your history when you put yourself up for agora mod. but you seem to have a new account or have cleared some of it.
uh no? I didn't make a new account or clear my history. All my comments are still in the Mod Application thread.
as for bias, are you asking me for my political opinions? I'm quite varied. c:
are you under the impression that political opinions don't constitute bias? Or maybe you think political opinions don't affect how we view news? I'd disagree with both statements
Yeah news is biased as it is because there are more events to report than there is time to report them. So a choice must be made on what to report. However, that choice is where the bias could end. The choice of what to report doesn't have include political bias in its conditions.
Alrighty! What's your opinion? /c/worldnews
What the hell? I thought this was better than reddit. The fact that all shit from reddit transfered to some instances just makes me sad.
and Lemmygrad users could be confronted on those instances
Ah yes the good old "debate me" approach, but reversed.