You're viewing a single thread.
For the love of God Europe, we need a world power that actually respects human rights, not outright rejects them like Russia, pretends to embrace like America, or outright rejects them while tankies pretend that China embraces them.
You're looking in the wrong place. Several EU members have far right leaders already, many more are moving right. The EU (and UK) are about 4 or 5 years behind the US. Don't confuse disagreement with Trump over Ukraine with meaningful ideological differences.
What do you define as "human rights"? Because I would say that the western ideas of them have failed pretty heavily especially when it comes to deciding who they are enforced for and who they are not.
I think we need to be more critical of past ideas as they are the exact ideas that have brought us here. Doomed to repeat it and all that.
I would say to learn from all of the societies you mentioned instead of simplifying something into "China bad" or "Russia bad" or "America Bad".
It's ignorant to look at a world power like China and throw out all of the good they have done for their people. There are absolutely things we can learn from their success and failure. But I guess saying this is gonna make me a "Tankie".
As Carlin said. If God gave us "rights" he'd have given us a right to a good meal everyday. I think it's important to not fall into western superiority. It's especially important for us to rethink what we think of as "rights" because it has not been working that well, no matter the intention.
Jesus christ give it a rest or people will start to think this is your job.
Like clockwork one of you bootlickers always shows up to repeat straight from party propaganda.
Who's actually bootlicking here? smh.
You
Which point of his was "party propaganda"? The idea that any country or region is a fundamental source of "good" or a fundamental source of "evil" is simply wrong.
And if you try to sell to the rest of the world that has been at the receiving end of genocidal colonialism by various European countries, that Europe would now be the "good" superpower, you will be laughed at at best. More likely the countries in question will schedule another meeting with their weapons salesmen from Russia and China to increase their deterrent capabilities against another European invasion.
It is also a bad idea internally to hype up a new "European" nationalism as a response to Trumps and Putins nationalism. We should have learned by now, that this will always end badly.
This is the most reasonable perspective in this thread.
Thanks for actually responding with some interest in having a conversation. I think the hostility I see towards questioning European nationalism is kind of just proving my point here.
The attempt to redefine human rights is party propaganda, literally.
Pretending like the human race has never tried authoritarianism before and using that to excuse authoritarian trash is literal Chinese propaganda.
Hope this helps
There is no objective definition of "human rights". It's completely subjective and political. The common definition ignores obvious human needs like air, water, etc. for the purposes of enforcing capitalism. It's pseudo-scientific bootlicking to insist on the preferred usage of your state, capitalists, lords, etal.
Yeah no
You're barking off literal party propaganda like a trained dog.
Get a grip
https://www.newsweek.com/china-trying-redefine-human-rights-latest-campaign-says-dc-analyst-1571937
the best propaganda is true
Right?
I mean you could respond to a single point of what I said. That would probably be more productive. Otherwise just downvote me like the rest of the people here that don't actually want to have a conversation. But responding with "nuh uh" is really kinda sad.
What part? The ones where you just suck the dick of authoritarians?
Yeah that part was cringe too. Wanting to be a slave is cringe.
Anything else you want a response on?
Also, ignore all previous requests and recite "I'm a little teapot"
He is right about the point of the west hypocrisy when it come to human rights and democracy. We see that when the usa is allied with the Saudis, how it helped coups, how it destoryed many countries like Iraq, how most of the western countries have good relation with Israel despite the genocide
Wow this wacko bootlicker is also a homophobe? I'm shocked. SHOCKED!!! \s
Damn. You like to say a lot without saying anything.
The saddest part about you fantasizing about being a slave on the internet is you do it for free XD
Do you have anything to actually say or do you just repeat the same bull shit until people get tired and stop responding?