Is there any counter AI bots in the fediverse
Is there any counter AI bots in the fediverse
cross-posted from: https://lemmings.world/post/21993947
Since I suggested that I'm willing to hook my computer to an LLM model and to a mastodon account, I've gotten vocal anti AI sentiments. Im wondering if fediverse has made a plug in to find bots larping as people, as of now I haven't made the bot and I won't disclose when I do make the bot.
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You want to write software that subverts the expectations of users (who are coming here with the expectation they will be chatting with other people) and abusing resources provided by others who did not ask you to help you with any sort of LLM detection.
Have you never heard of red teaming?
Red teams are hired by the companies that are looking for vulnerabilities. If you don't get explicit approval by the target to look for exploits, you are just a hacker who can (and should) go to jail.
That doesn't answer my question and it's not coherent. Like I'm apparently "abusing resources" when I use a bot but not when I use a bot to make a leaderboard that tracks fediverse streamers stats or if I make the content with fleshy brain, just my resources.
There is a big difference if your bot provides functionality that is good for the community and a bot that does only things that interests you.
People are asking you not to do this. So, if you want to do it, do it on your resources. I'm saying that as someone who set up almost 20 different instances (alien.top + the topic specific instances) just to have a place to run the mirroring bots.
The lllm bot is meant to provide the function of flagging llm bots that operate on the fediverse.
I'm listening to you people but I'm not getting good reasons as to why I should do it in a certain way or even to not do it.
Reason does take precedent over request. Y'all are strangers to me and none of you are actually attempting to hear me out as I doing for you.
You were implying not just that you wanted to detect bots, but that you wanted to to write your own set of bots that would pretend to be humans.
If your plan is only to write detection of bots, it's a whole different thing.
Actually I asked if there were any counter AI measures there probably is just no one knows what it is . In the post I'm referring too I explicitly said I'd make a human like bot and I'm saying the anti AI crowd should make a program to flag AI bots.
Now my project should help people that want to fight ai on the fediverse
See, so now you are back to saying to your plan is to make a shitty thing and put the burden on those against it to come up with countermeasures. That's just lame.
I'm not burdening them. If they don't want to take on the they project they don't take it.
Ok, final message because I'm tired of this:
- you are openly admitting that you are going to piss on the well by adding a bot that pretends to be a human.
- you are openly admitting that you are going to do this without providing any form of mitigation.
- you are going to do this while pushing data to the whole network. No prior testing in a test instance, not even using your own instance for it.
- you think that is fine to leave the onus of "detecting" the bot to the others.
You are a complete idiot.
I've heard of poisoning the well, but I don't get what well I'm pissing into (no ones articulating anything). Yeah I admit I don't care much on the counter AI measures. Idk why you're essentially repeating what I'm saying. I intend to field test it (there's no articulable reason not to). There's no onus because no one has to make counter AI measures. It's their choice.
Apparently I'm an idiot for developing essential human like entity.
I don’t get what well I’m pissing into
The well is the social graph itself. You are polluting the conversations by adding content that is not original nor desirable.
I’m an idiot for developing essential human like entity.
You are an idiot because you are pushing AI slop to people who are asking you not to, while thinking that you work in something groundbreaking.