Ubuntu users on the other hand don't deserve even the slight amount of critic they get for just.. Using Ubuntu. like, at least they use Linux, we should be encouraging them to keep using it.
Didn't upstart show up in jaunty jackalope? I don't recall systemd being all that big back then. Also, jaunty booted in 30s to desktop on a 4200rpm spinning rust IDE drive, Intel m processor. In my book they succeeded there but yeah, the attitude they have about contributing to current projects is bullshit.
Yes, upstart was first released in 2006. systemd was released in 2010. In fact, RHEL 6 (relevant because systemd was created by Red Hat) came with upstart.