Hi all. I've been having some problems keeping fedia.io running - at the moment, either the message workers or the php web server processes are dying after an hour or so and I have to restart everything. I have been working with the mbin team and installed some updates that we hoped would fix the problems, but no luck. I am going to work on a cron job to automatically restart things once an hour. The down side, is that you'll likely see some error 500's if you happen to hit it when the processes are restarting, but it should happen quickly and refreshing the page should make it work again.
I've noticed recently that I'm getting errors trying to vote on any posts in a discussion I've had open for more than maybe a minute (I haven't actually timed it). I don't remember it from before these issues, but I also switched to this instance just before. Might it be related?
Normally, if I refresh a page once and immediately vote, it works. In this case, it has never worked.
This happens periodically and it does not seem to be specific to any instance (I've seen across posts from several both in terms of the OP or the instance of the commenter).
My gut says potentially issues with timezone somewhere and my offset (UTC+9) is potentially far enough out that it's an issue. I have no evidence for that. Looking at the request and response in dev tools hasn't yielded anything particularly useful so far as I can tell.
Still getting it very frequently. Sometimes no amount of refreshing will allow me to vote on something. Here's the latest URL: https://fedia.io/ef/1184232?choice=1
For now try Firefox or a fork: Floorp, LibreWolf, etc. I heard that works better.. I know this isn't the solution, but that is the best workaround atm.
Most interesting: the problem had only been happening on MS Edge on my laptop. I have been using safari on my phone without issue. Just a bit ago, i refreshed the page and now every time I revisit the site, I have to log back in, just like on Edge. It’s like the old session expired and the new ones aren’t sticking. I’ll try FF on my phone.
Note: even in the time I started typing this reply to when I hit the “add comment” button, I got logged out
ok - I just had it happen again while looking at logs. interestingly, there was NOT a CSRF log when that happened. There were a bunch of other errors, but enough that I could look through all of them and see that they were all related to activitypub issues - signaturevalidator and the like
I really hope it's not a session issue with Valkey or something (I don't think so..). We are now just going deep into this issue I think. Both sessions & csrf. Since I notice already some weird config issues with csrf forms
The tokens used for CSRF protection are meant to be different for every user and they are stored in the session. That's why a session is started automatically as soon as you render a form with CSRF protection.
Moreover, this means that you cannot fully cache pages that include CSRF protected forms. As an alternative, you can:
Embed the form inside an uncached ESI fragment and cache the rest of the page contents;
Cache the entire page and load the form via an uncached AJAX request;
Cache the entire page and use hinclude.js to load the CSRF token with an uncached AJAX request and replace the form field value with it.
I have so many errors in prod.log that it's hard to tell for certain, but when I try to filter out those that are associated with failed federation events, that seems to be when I'm left with. I am trying again to see if I can confirm
Could you join the conversation here? https://github.com/MbinOrg/mbin/pull/1130. We really are trying hard to debug this issue. Both CSRF form issue as well as log out issue.
I will also note that there are three patterns when I post a comment that may or may not be related:
it just publishes when I hit the button
I hit the button, it thinks for a second, and then the button is intractable again. Pushing it again works so far in every case (i.e. it seems something goes wrong but no UI error. I haven't had dev tools open to see what happens there. This feels like it took to long for me to reply in some cases, but not all).
I hit post and get moved to a new page which is just my post with a preview. I'm not sure if this is just how it works with certain sites or something or also related.
Y'all are great. Feel free to ask if you need me to try anything. I haven't touched PHP in years, but I am a software engineer, so feel free to be as technical as you'd like.
We can definitively use more developers. We are currently with only two: me and bentigorlich (recently debounced left as well as e-five). I also didn't use Symfony (the PHP framework behind it), but I now also got those skills in place.. So no worries, we are happy to help you. You can join us at Matrix, so it's easier to chat and discuss: Mbin Matrix space. I hope to see you there!
This annoys me about the fediverse - people take a chance on coming here and then repeatedly get left in the dark when their instance is shut down. That's why I was so very happy when you and others helped me get fedia.io back to healthy.
We need server error logs. So when such a problem happens. And you can fully replicate the issue. I hope you can test it with @[email protected] and see if there is some error log at the server side happening as well.
That allows us (developers) to find hopefully the root-cause of this issue. If it's still present.
It might only be with certain instances. I just noticed it wasn't happening on a lemmy.world post I'd had open for a while. It could also have been something temporary. I'll try to sport/report any patterns.