Hexbear will be federating soon, there should be pinned post explaining it
Hexbear will be federating soon, there should be pinned post explaining it
Hello Users of Hexbear I wanted to have a featured post discussing the next steps for federation. We have discussed this at length among the mod team, and it is pretty much evenly split between federating based on a "block-list" or federating based on an "allow-list". While the mod team slightly ske...
Hexbear is far more likely to have users entering and using our comms, being another large socialist instance, albeit dedicated to left unity rather than Marxism like ourselves. I think there is enough of a culture change that we need to have a pinned post for hexbear users coming here explaining what kind of content/attitudes they might see here/what different rules to follow
There should also be a section dedicated to explaining to lemmygrad users to respect hexbear comm rules and what to expect from their users etc.
I think this would help ease any potential cross site struggle sessions
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Last time I checked Hexbear it was a drama factory
I was really involved in it a couple years ago because I ran a West Marches DnD server that primarily recruited from Hexbear (I'm not really involved anymore but it's still going, DM or reply and I'll shoot you an invite). So I know a lot of the posters relatively well personally (though none of the administrators ever joined). Drama is an understatement and I think it ultimately derives from the administrators feeling like they need to personally intervene in every little issue, inevitably blowing it up into massive proportions.
The one moment that has stuck with me is when a user (who was a common player in our DnD server, we'll call her Tammy) made a post mildly criticizing another poster who was making overly saccharine "You are all so valid ❤" posts literally every single day. Basically saying "Hey I get you mean to be nice but this is just annoying". The other user made a big, long "THIS IS WHY I'M LEAVING HEXBEAR!!!" post and Tammy ends up being not only banned (with a snarky ban message) but accused of being a TERF. TAMMY WAS A TRANS WOMAN. She was eventually unbanned and the conversation got turned into "Making allowances for our Neurodivergent members" which is basically saying "You were in the wrong but it's okay because you're a r*tard."
Half of the people in our DnD server who were active in Hexbear would eventually be banned; most (myself included) just stopped using it at some point.
For what it's worth, as long as we get to keep our downvotes and I don't have to NSFW-tag my meatposting, I don't really mind, if anything it'll be fun to laugh at them when they come in here and complain.
As with the other commenter, the admins that were involved with the mod actions regarding Tammy are no longer a part of the admin team and I do wish to apologize to Tammy on behalf of Hexbear (that event was part of the reason hexbear now bans "I'm Leaving" posts).
I personally highly disagree with your phrasing of why she was unbanned as it was a mod action of a single team member, the reason was "toxicity see [redacted] post" and "fucky wucky" while the unban reasons were "Comrade was ND which wasn't initially recognized by the mod team at time of ban. [redacted] Post was meant to be sincere. We are putting in policies to prevent this in the future" both the first ban and the second were reversed by the majority of the mod team disagreeing with the lone mod, not "[Tammy was] in the wrong but it’s okay because she’s a r*tard".
Ultimately I do want to thank you for bringing this up, if any of those half who were banned have any interest in returning I would be more than happy to personally review the bans, but I understand if none wish to return. I extend apologies and regret for how the situation was handled to them as well as yourself and can only say that the team now is very different from the team at that time, and we have done critical analysis on the mod actions taken during that time to ensure we serve the community better.
In closing I would like to state that I also disagree with your comment below regarding Animal Liberation's place in any ML movement, but this is not the time or place for such a discussion.
For what it's worth the Hammer and Sickle is a fantastic west marches server and if you are interested in DnD 3.5 played in a very schedule friendly format with an inclusive group of comrades you should join.
Thanks for the reply and sorry if I came off a little too strong. For what it's worth I'm completely in favor with federation and if the administrative team has gotten better, I'm glad to hear about it (though from what I understand the problem was far from just one or two rogue mods; but at this point I'm dealing with 1-2+ year old memory of ancient struggle sessions).
I know Hellscyth, one of our moderators, was banned for complaining about the admins during the early "If you complain about the staff at all you're a 'wrecker'" days (though she's kind of fallen off in activity and I would feel weird bringing this up to her now; and for what it's worth she seemed pretty done with Hexbear anyways by that point). I don't honestly think I've heard a single person in the A&S mention Hexbear for the last year and a half, so we're all talking ancient history at this point. Out of our current staff and regular playership, I think she's the only one still around with a Hexbear ban.
Between the "Wrecker" fiasco, the three or four separate trans issues struggle sessions, the downvote removals, (EDIT: The Vegans!), and the constant browbeating from certain members of staff over users who are "Posting online and not going out and doing real Praxis, like me", there's a reason I stopped interacting (except to shill my DnD Server, sorry lol) well over a year ago.
But I also recognize that I'm obviously not the target audience for Hexbear, and I probably never would have felt completely at home with the direction it was taking. I like arguing with chuds and libs. It's what keeps my blood churning. Safe spaces are boring (to me). The only times I really interacted with the Hexbear were, ironically, during the struggle sessions, because it gave me something to actually engage with. Lemmygrad with federation brings back some of that original Chapo feel, with the "home" where you can be affirmed and the "hinterlands" where you go off to fight the posting wars.
Lemmygrad with federation brings back some of that original Chapo feel, with the “home” where you can be affirmed and the “hinterlands” where you go off to fight the posting wars.
As a Hexbear user this is what I’m most excited for. Back the the posting trenches
I feel like people who complain about the vegans are sus. As evidenced by the "plant-based beer", reactionaries want to oppress them. So we as communists should protect them, I'd say.
I don't have anything against Vegans who don't expect me to change my behavior to accommodate them, but Veganism is a political ideology, not an unchangeable personal identity.
I don't like it when people put subcultures (esp. Veganism or Furrydom) on par with actual marginalized groups (whether by ethnicity, religion, gender or sexuality, etc.). Hating furries makes you rude. Hating trans people makes you a bigot. How reactionaries care about either group doesn't enter into the equation at all; I don't like someone just because bigots hate them. Even the bigot clock is right twice a day.
Vegans believe that animals have many of the same rights as people. I like some animals (I have a pet cat I love like family), but I fundamentally believe that animals are property and should not have rights beyond that except where their mistreatment negatively impacts humans. These are irreconcilable differences in opinion and while I've never gone out of my way to vegan-hate, I want to be able to use Lemmygrad without their interference.
Bans on Hexbear are basically a brush back pitch. Many banned users simply create a new account and move on. Mods do not try to sus out if a new user is a formerly-banned user; it's a clean slate.
All things considered I think this is a good approach. It has the added benefit of reducing the number of "power users" (hate that term) and encouraging people to be less terminally online.
Like at a certain point they auto-banned anyone who ever downvoted a trans user
Good, transphobes get the pit